[Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
Justin Clark-Casey
jjustincc at googlemail.com
Wed Apr 1 14:24:46 UTC 2009
This is a very funny joke - I love the long tentacled avatars.
However, I can appreciate your frustration, Chris. I think that it's unfortunate that 0.6.3 suffers from an avatar
appearance regression that hasn't been addressed. That's not to disrespect the efforts of Charles, Stefan and other
folk who manage the releases. They do a fine job, though I think the would also agree that our releases are still more
or less finger in the air, does this seem stable? affairs (though perhaps Stefan is trying to change this by doing
release candidates).
To some extent I think it's a manpower problem. Until there is a really great desire for stable releases as opposed to
trunk snapshots, then the effort won't go in to assuring this.
Having said that, I think that it's unfortunate if some fun code crept into a 0.6.4 release candidate - perhaps it
should be put in a little nearer April 1.
MW wrote:
> I can understand your point and as I said we are sorry for any problems
> this issue caused.
>
> But its just that comments like "Now to waste an hour of my time
> patching all my servers." that just make me wonder why "I have wasted
> all those thousands of hours working on opensim and doing all that work
> for free". When what we get in return is people moaning about spending a
> hour on something.
>
> I'm just talking from a personal point of view here (and in no way
> represent the thoughts of the other developers), but its just makes me
> more and more wonder why we do this.
>
> BTW: Just so people know, I believe the 0.6.4RC that Stefan tagged also
> has this issue in it, but then thats most likely why its a RC and not a
> stable release.
>
> --- On *Wed, 1/4/09, Chris Hart /<Chris at codetorque.co.uk>/* wrote:
>
> From: Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
> To: michaelwri22 at yahoo.co.uk, opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 11:46 AM
>
> Given that 0.6.3 was not a good release (avatar appearance bugs), I
> was hoping to wait for 0.6.4 for ReactionGrid and for our clients.
> It was taking a while to tag, and I had identified a stable revision
> that I had put through a lot of testing and made the call based on
> running a significant test plan. Our database (MSSQL) was over 5Gb,
> the change from 0.6.2 to 0.6.4 included a major schema change that
> meant the longer we left updating, the longer (and harder) an update
> was gonna be. I made the call to update us just before Stefan tagged
> the release – I didn’t anticipate this particular outcome.
>
>
>
> I will take full responsibility if there is a bug in opensim code
> that affects my clients that would have been prevented if I had used
> a stable branch, but I do actually trust you guys too – you do great
> work, I read every commit log (evidently not thoroughly enough) and
> I use my experience to make a call on whether a breaking change has
> been put in or not. In this situation, what would have been nice
> would have been a simple switch to return to normal. We saw the joke
> last night and yes, we fell about laughing, thinking it was a freaky
> occurrence on a highly-loaded sim, never for one moment realising
> this was going to strike all our servers today.
>
>
>
> ReactionGrid is a young business, we’re pushing out there to find
> customers who are willing to go with us through the bumps, ride the
> fun little features, because we really do believe in the platform,
> even at this early stage. I didn’t start working with OpenSim til
> May last year, so I didn’t know this was likely to happen.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] *On Behalf Of *MW
> *Sent:* 01 April 2009 11:27
> *To:* opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
>
>
>
> I understand that it has caused you problems and we are sorry for
> that but to be honest, its not a good idea to be running trunk in
> any production set up or for business use. Trunk is for development
> and can be broke at any time.
>
> We do release "stable" tagged versions and we strongly suggest that
> anyone using opensim for business or production use sticks to those.
> They all have their problems but trunk just can't be depended on to
> be working/stable or anything.
>
> The only people who should be using trunk are developers, testers
> and people who want to try the very lastest changes.
>
> All the developers work very hard for nothing in return so its a
> small thing for some of us to put a small pank in TRUNK once a year.
>
> Again I do understand it has caused you some problems but we offer
> all our work free and as I said we strongly advise people to use the
> tagged versions.
>
> --- On *Wed, 1/4/09, Chris Hart /<Chris at codetorque.co.uk>/* wrote:
>
> From: Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 9:12 AM
>
> Wow, you're kidding me?
>
>
>
> So, those of us trying to run a business promoting OpenSim to pioneering
>
> business folks and educators who are VW newbies have to cancel all appointments
>
> because of a prank? "I'm sorry, this doesn't normally happen, this
>
> is a prank"
>
>
>
> Thanks guys - didn't need this first thing today. So what's the
>
> solution? Set all servers to April 2nd?
>
>
>
> Anyone who knows me knows I'm easy going and enjoy having fun, but not when
>
> this affects my business, potential income, and hence my
>
> family.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
>
> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Frisby, Adam
>
> Sent: 01 April 2009 06:21
>
> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, I think it's the april fools joke. Blame Teravus. ;)
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-users-
>
> > bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of John Sheridan
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:07 PM
>
> > To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>
> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
>
> >
>
> > Well, its not the clock not unless it triggered something thats not
>
> > effected by rolling the clock back. As well its not Hippo since the
>
> > vanilla SL viewer is doing the same thing. Its also
>
> apparently not
>
> > fixed by updating to svn 8951. I'll go ahead and plug this into
>
> Mantis
>
> > now. :P
>
> >
>
> > John Sheridan wrote:
>
> > > Just to test I tried rolling back the clock on
> my server to the 31st
>
> > > with no effect. I'm re-updating now to today's svn.
>
> Although I
>
> > wonder
>
> > > if perhaps this could be a viewer issue? I've not yet tried with
>
> > > something other then Hippo.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Jonathan Greenlee wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >> It must be a date triggered "bug" in the server. I get
>
> the effect
>
> > when I use opensim 8742 now, everything was fine before with 8742, and
>
> > everything is fine in a very old Opensim I still have installed on the
>
> > same mac mini.
>
> > >> All using the same viewer.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > >>
>
> > >> On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:06 PM, John
>
> Sheridan
>
> <john at pseudospace.net>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >>
>
> > >> YES,
> YES! I'm having this too! Everything was fine last
>
> night and
>
> > this
>
> > >> morning after upgrading to svn 8927, but this evening after
>
> logging
>
> > in
>
> > >> all avatars are distorted in the same way. Has anyone put this
>
> in
>
> > >> Mantis yet?
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Ursula MATOVA wrote:
>
> > >> Same here Stefan ...
>
> > >> ... But remember it's April, 1st :D
>
> > >> Regards
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Le 1 avr. 09 à 00:42, StefanL a écrit :
>
> > >>
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Hello list ..
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Friends and I are all really some kind of stretched.
>
> > >> We tried different sims and all that .. Anybody else
>
> > >> experience this ? Lbsa plaza seems normal ..
>
> >
> >>
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> >> Ist that the aprils fool joke from the developers ??
>
> > >>
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Best regards
>
> > >> Wordfromthe Wise
>
> > >> Akira Sonoda
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Pictures are here :
>
> > >>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28957438@N04/3402171863/sizes/o/in/set-
>
> > 72157613
>
> > >> 060633763/
>
> > >> and
>
> > >>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28957438@N04/3402978628/sizes/o/in/set-
>
> > 72157613
>
> > >> 060633763/
>
> > >>
>
> > >>
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