[Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched

Wed Apr 1 12:05:43 UTC 2009

Let's see...

Qualcomm released a video stating that they're creating the
wolfpigeon, the sharkfalcon, and the crocodeagle.
Google's running a story that they've created a way for your computer
to automatically answer your emails based on bayesian filtering and
your standard response patterns.
Wired is running a story that Twitter's creating a device based on an
old 2-way pager design from Motorola, to make its business model
visible and viable.

Compared to these announcements, OpenSim is... distorting the avatar.
(Honestly, I would have expected OpenSim to actually start distorting
prims in the region, causing them to 'breathe'.)

No matter what you try to do, even the commercial products are going
to have this level of easter egg around April 1.  Commercial companies
are starting to take April 1 'seriously' -- as in 'serious pranks'.

To be honest, I've been told that playing golf with someone shows a
lot about how the people do business.  If someone is calm and relaxed
even when they make a bad shot, they're probably going to be calm and
relaxed if a hiccup happens (as they inevitably do) if you're doing
business with them.  If someone's so uptight and competitive that they
demand perfection from themselves, and throw a tantrum when they don't
meet their own expectations, then they're likely going to be
unpleasant to do business with.

So please, by all means, find a commercial product.  Your response
suggests that you're not someone that I'd want to do business with,
anyway.

-Kyle H

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Frank W Sweet <fwsweet at backintyme.com> wrote:
> Not to put too fine a point on it, but this "prank" was so grossly
> unprofessional that it has prompted a debate within Backintyme
> Publishing as to whether we should simply abandon Opensim entirely and
> go with a commercial product instead. If the prankster wanted to
> demolish Opensim's credibility in the real world, I cannot think of a
> more effective method of doing so. "Sorry" is inadequate. If Opensim
> hopes to be taken seriously, such deliberate vandalism by a developer
> must never be allowed to happen again.
>
> FWS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MW" <michaelwri22 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: <opensim-users at lists.berlios.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
>
>
> I can understand your point and as I said we are sorry for any
> problems this issue caused.
>
> But
> its just that comments like "Now to waste an hour of my time patching
> all my servers." that just make me wonder why "I have wasted all those
> thousands of hours working on opensim and doing all that work for
> free". When what we get in return is people moaning about spending a
> hour on something.
>
> I'm just talking from a personal point of
> view here (and in no way represent the thoughts of the other
> developers), but its just makes me more and more wonder why we do
> this.
>
> BTW:
> Just so people know, I believe the 0.6.4RC that Stefan tagged also has
> this issue in it, but then thats most likely why its a RC and not a
> stable release.
>
> --- On Wed, 1/4/09, Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk> wrote:
> From: Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
> To: michaelwri22 at yahoo.co.uk, opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 11:46 AM
>
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>
> Given that 0.6.3 was not a good release (avatar appearance bugs),
> I was hoping to wait for 0.6.4 for ReactionGrid and for our clients.
> It was
> taking a while to tag, and I had identified a stable revision that I
> had put
> through a lot of testing and made the call based on running a
> significant test
> plan. Our database (MSSQL) was over 5Gb, the change from 0.6.2 to
> 0.6.4
> included a major schema change that meant the longer we left updating,
> the
> longer (and harder) an update was gonna be. I made the call to update
> us just
> before Stefan tagged the release – I didn’t anticipate this
> particular outcome.
>
>
>
> I will take full responsibility if there is a bug in opensim
> code that affects my clients that would have been prevented if I had
> used a
> stable branch, but I do actually trust you guys too – you do great
> work,
> I read every commit log (evidently not thoroughly enough) and I use my
> experience to make a call on whether a breaking change has been put in
> or not.
> In this situation, what would have been nice would have been a simple
> switch to
> return to normal. We saw the joke last night and yes, we fell about
> laughing,
> thinking it was a freaky occurrence on a highly-loaded sim, never for
> one
> moment realising this was going to strike all our servers today.
>
>
>
> ReactionGrid is a young business, we’re pushing out there
> to find customers who are willing to go with us through the bumps,
> ride the fun
> little features, because we really do believe in the platform, even at
> this
> early stage. I didn’t start working with OpenSim til May last year, so
> I
> didn’t know this was likely to happen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of MW
>
> Sent: 01 April 2009 11:27
>
> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
>
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>  I understand that it has caused you problems and we are
>  sorry for that but to be honest, its not a good idea to be running
> trunk in
>  any production set up or for business use. Trunk is for development
> and can
>  be broke at any time.
>
>
>
>  We do release "stable" tagged versions and we strongly suggest that
>  anyone using opensim for business or production use sticks to those.
> They all
>  have their problems but trunk just can't be depended on to be
> working/stable
>  or anything.
>
>
>
>  The only people who should be using trunk are developers, testers
> and people
>  who want to try the very lastest changes.
>
>
>
>  All the developers work very hard for nothing in return so its a
> small thing
>  for some of us to put a small pank in TRUNK once a year.
>
>
>
>  Again I do understand it has caused you some problems but we offer
> all our
>  work free and as I said we strongly advise people to use the tagged
> versions.
>
>
>
>
>  --- On Wed, 1/4/09, Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>
>  wrote:
>  From: Chris Hart
>  <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>
>
>  Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly
> stretched
>
>  To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>
>  Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 9:12 AM
>  Wow, you're kidding me?
>
>
>
> So, those of us trying to run a business promoting OpenSim to
> pioneering
>
> business folks and educators who are VW newbies have to cancel all
> appointments
>
> because of a prank? "I'm sorry, this doesn't normally happen, this
>
> is a prank"
>
>
>
> Thanks guys - didn't need this first thing today. So what's the
>
> solution? Set all servers to April 2nd?
>
>
>
> Anyone who knows me knows I'm easy going and enjoy having fun, but not
> when
>
> this affects my business, potential income, and hence my family.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
>
> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Frisby,
> Adam
>
> Sent: 01 April 2009 06:21
>
> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
>
>
>
> Yeah, I think it's the april fools joke. Blame Teravus. ;)
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-users-
>
>> bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of John Sheridan
>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:07 PM
>
>> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly
>> stretched
>
>>
>
>> Well, its not the clock not unless it triggered something thats not
>
>> effected by rolling the clock back. As well its not Hippo since the
>
>> vanilla SL viewer is doing the same thing. Its also apparently not
>
>> fixed by updating to svn 8951. I'll go ahead and plug this into
>
> Mantis
>
>> now. :P
>
>>
>
>> John Sheridan wrote:
>
>> > Just to test I tried rolling back the clock on my server to the
>> > 31st
>
>> > with no effect. I'm re-updating now to today's svn.
>
> Although I
>
>> wonder
>
>> > if perhaps this could be a viewer issue? I've not yet tried with
>
>> > something other then Hippo.
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > Jonathan Greenlee wrote:
>
>> >
>
>> >> It must be a date triggered "bug" in the server. I get
>
> the effect
>
>> when I use opensim 8742 now, everything was fine before with 8742,
>> and
>
>> everything is fine in a very old Opensim I still have installed on
>> the
>
>> same mac mini.
>
>> >> All using the same viewer.
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> >>
>
>> >> On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:06 PM, John Sheridan
>
> <john at pseudospace.net>
>
>> wrote:
>
>> >>
>
>> >> YES, YES! I'm having this too! Everything was fine last
>
> night and
>
>> this
>
>> >> morning after upgrading to svn 8927, but this evening after
>
> logging
>
>> in
>
>> >> all avatars are distorted in the same way. Has anyone put this
>
> in
>
>> >> Mantis yet?
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Ursula MATOVA wrote:
>
>> >> Same here Stefan ...
>
>> >> ... But remember it's April, 1st :D
>
>> >> Regards
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Le 1 avr. 09 à 00:42, StefanL a écrit :
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Hello list ..
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Friends and I are all really some kind of stretched.
>
>> >> We tried different sims and all that .. Anybody else
>
>> >> experience this ? Lbsa plaza seems normal ..
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Ist that the aprils fool joke from the developers ??
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Best regards
>
>> >> Wordfromthe Wise
>
>> >> Akira Sonoda
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Pictures are here :
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>> >>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28957438@N04/3402171863/sizes/o/in/set-
>
>> 72157613
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>> >> 060633763/
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>> >> and
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>> >>
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28957438@N04/3402978628/sizes/o/in/set-
>
>> 72157613
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>> >> 060633763/
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>> >>
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