[Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched

Wed Apr 1 11:27:23 UTC 2009

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this "prank" was so grossly 
unprofessional that it has prompted a debate within Backintyme 
Publishing as to whether we should simply abandon Opensim entirely and 
go with a commercial product instead. If the prankster wanted to 
demolish Opensim's credibility in the real world, I cannot think of a 
more effective method of doing so. "Sorry" is inadequate. If Opensim 
hopes to be taken seriously, such deliberate vandalism by a developer 
must never be allowed to happen again.

FWS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MW" <michaelwri22 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: <opensim-users at lists.berlios.de>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched

I can understand your point and as I said we are sorry for any 
problems this issue caused.

But
its just that comments like "Now to waste an hour of my time patching
all my servers." that just make me wonder why "I have wasted all those
thousands of hours working on opensim and doing all that work for
free". When what we get in return is people moaning about spending a
hour on something.

I'm just talking from a personal point of
view here (and in no way represent the thoughts of the other
developers), but its just makes me more and more wonder why we do 
this.

BTW:
Just so people know, I believe the 0.6.4RC that Stefan tagged also has
this issue in it, but then thats most likely why its a RC and not a
stable release.

--- On Wed, 1/4/09, Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk> wrote:
From: Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched
To: michaelwri22 at yahoo.co.uk, opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 11:46 AM

Given that 0.6.3 was not a good release (avatar appearance bugs),
I was hoping to wait for 0.6.4 for ReactionGrid and for our clients. 
It was
taking a while to tag, and I had identified a stable revision that I 
had put
through a lot of testing and made the call based on running a 
significant test
plan. Our database (MSSQL) was over 5Gb, the change from 0.6.2 to 
0.6.4
included a major schema change that meant the longer we left updating, 
the
longer (and harder) an update was gonna be. I made the call to update 
us just
before Stefan tagged the release – I didn’t anticipate this
particular outcome.

I will take full responsibility if there is a bug in opensim
code that affects my clients that would have been prevented if I had 
used a
stable branch, but I do actually trust you guys too – you do great 
work,
I read every commit log (evidently not thoroughly enough) and I use my
experience to make a call on whether a breaking change has been put in 
or not.
In this situation, what would have been nice would have been a simple 
switch to
return to normal. We saw the joke last night and yes, we fell about 
laughing,
thinking it was a freaky occurrence on a highly-loaded sim, never for 
one
moment realising this was going to strike all our servers today.

ReactionGrid is a young business, we’re pushing out there
to find customers who are willing to go with us through the bumps, 
ride the fun
little features, because we really do believe in the platform, even at 
this
early stage. I didn’t start working with OpenSim til May last year, so 
I
didn’t know this was likely to happen.

From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
[mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of MW

Sent: 01 April 2009 11:27

To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de

Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched

  I understand that it has caused you problems and we are
  sorry for that but to be honest, its not a good idea to be running 
trunk in
  any production set up or for business use. Trunk is for development 
and can
  be broke at any time.

  We do release "stable" tagged versions and we strongly suggest that
  anyone using opensim for business or production use sticks to those. 
They all
  have their problems but trunk just can't be depended on to be 
working/stable
  or anything.

  The only people who should be using trunk are developers, testers 
and people
  who want to try the very lastest changes.

  All the developers work very hard for nothing in return so its a 
small thing
  for some of us to put a small pank in TRUNK once a year.

  Again I do understand it has caused you some problems but we offer 
all our
  work free and as I said we strongly advise people to use the tagged 
versions.

  --- On Wed, 1/4/09, Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>
  wrote:
  From: Chris Hart
  <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>

  Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly 
stretched

  To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de

  Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 9:12 AM
  Wow, you're kidding me?

So, those of us trying to run a business promoting OpenSim to 
pioneering

business folks and educators who are VW newbies have to cancel all 
appointments

because of a prank? "I'm sorry, this doesn't normally happen, this

is a prank"

Thanks guys - didn't need this first thing today. So what's the

solution? Set all servers to April 2nd?

Anyone who knows me knows I'm easy going and enjoy having fun, but not 
when

this affects my business, potential income, and hence my family.

-----Original Message-----

From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de

[mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Frisby, 
Adam

Sent: 01 April 2009 06:21

To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de

Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly stretched

Yeah, I think it's the april fools joke. Blame Teravus. ;)

Adam

> -----Original Message-----

> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-users-

> bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of John Sheridan

> Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:07 PM

> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de

> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Strange effekt / Avatar totaly 
> stretched

>

> Well, its not the clock not unless it triggered something thats not

> effected by rolling the clock back. As well its not Hippo since the

> vanilla SL viewer is doing the same thing. Its also apparently not

> fixed by updating to svn 8951. I'll go ahead and plug this into

Mantis

> now. :P

>

> John Sheridan wrote:

> > Just to test I tried rolling back the clock on my server to the 
> > 31st

> > with no effect. I'm re-updating now to today's svn.

Although I

> wonder

> > if perhaps this could be a viewer issue? I've not yet tried with

> > something other then Hippo.

> >

> >

> > Jonathan Greenlee wrote:

> >

> >> It must be a date triggered "bug" in the server. I get

the effect

> when I use opensim 8742 now, everything was fine before with 8742, 
> and

> everything is fine in a very old Opensim I still have installed on 
> the

> same mac mini.

> >> All using the same viewer.

> >>

> >> Sent from my iPhone

> >>

> >> On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:06 PM, John Sheridan

<john at pseudospace.net>

> wrote:

> >>

> >> YES, YES! I'm having this too! Everything was fine last

night and

> this

> >> morning after upgrading to svn 8927, but this evening after

logging

> in

> >> all avatars are distorted in the same way. Has anyone put this

in

> >> Mantis yet?

> >>

> >> Ursula MATOVA wrote:

> >> Same here Stefan ...

> >> ... But remember it's April, 1st :D

> >> Regards

> >>

> >> Le 1 avr. 09 à 00:42, StefanL a écrit :

> >>

> >>

> >> Hello list ..

> >>

> >> Friends and I are all really some kind of stretched.

> >> We tried different sims and all that .. Anybody else

> >> experience this ? Lbsa plaza seems normal ..

> >>

> >>

> >> Ist that the aprils fool joke from the developers ??

> >>

> >>

> >> Best regards

> >> Wordfromthe Wise

> >> Akira Sonoda

> >>

> >> Pictures are here :

> >>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28957438@N04/3402171863/sizes/o/in/set-

> 72157613

> >> 060633763/

> >> and

> >>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28957438@N04/3402978628/sizes/o/in/set-

> 72157613

> >> 060633763/

> >>

> >>

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