<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><head><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3160"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3162">I imagine you have look at the following web page among the source of information for your article . Its a bit old 2011 but still valide in principles. <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3317" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3162"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3159"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3229" dir="ltr"><a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3228" href="http://www.ics.uci.edu/~lopes/opensim/HypergridReferenceGuide.html">http://www.ics.uci.edu/~lopes/opensim/HypergridReferenceGuide.html</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3458" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3460" dir="ltr"><a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3487" class="enhancr2_6ec6eaa2-74af-42a6-0137-9b16847e7abc" href="http://tagide.com/blog/research/optimizing-opensimulator-part-i/">Optimizing OpenSimulator, Part I | Tagide</a> might be of interest to you even if not on hypergrid per say it give insights on how stuff works between viewer and simulator. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3493"><br></div><div id="enhancr2_6ec6eaa2-74af-42a6-0137-9b16847e7abc" class="yahoo-link-enhancr-card ymail-preserve-class ymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" data-url="http://tagide.com/blog/research/optimizing-opensimulator-part-i/" data-type="yenhancr" data-category="article" data-embed-url="" data-size="medium" dir="ltr" contenteditable="false"> <a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3892" href="http://tagide.com/blog/research/optimizing-opensimulator-part-i/" style="text-decoration:none !important; 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line-height:19px; margin:0 0 4px 0;font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;word-break:break-word;">Optimizing OpenSimulator, Part I | Tagide</h2> <div class="card-description" style="font-size:11px;line-height:15px;color:#999;word-break:break-word;"></div> </td> <td style="text-align:right;padding:16px 12px 16px 0;"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3839"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3844">an other interesting view point is the mantis using hypergrid as search key. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3870" dir="ltr"><a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3869" class="enhancr2_afe32ca4-6ef0-f900-b6d9-32c51030c859" href="http://opensimulator.org/mantis/summary_page.php">http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3999"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_4090">Hope it helps<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_4084" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_4136" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3841" dir="ltr"><a id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3228" href="http://www.ics.uci.edu/~lopes/opensim/HypergridReferenceGuide.html"><br></a> </div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3141" class="signature">GiMiSa</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3266" class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3218" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3217" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3216" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3215" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3248" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Kurt Pudniks <skinduptruk@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> opensim-dev@opensimulator.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> vendredi 17 février 2017 19h57<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Opensim-dev] Questions about hypergrid (eventually)<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3252" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1636236795"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3251"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3250" dir="ltr">Hi Mike, all,<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3254"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3256">Love the idea of writing an article about opensim. I support your enthusiasm!</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3258"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487598323674_3260">The source code will show you line by line how things are done. Question is: how does each grid modify their base code to adapt to their users? This tends to be somewhat commercial in confidence ;) and therein lies the big political problem re evolving opensim 2.0 right now...</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'm aiming to learn some opensim (C#) for my own understanding of what is possible. Feel free to email me directly and we can chat more ie I might read (perhaps even explain at times! :) some source code for you as a research assistant of sorts...</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Kurt.</div></div><div class="yiv1636236795gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv1636236795gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Mike Higgins <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mike@kayaker.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:mike@kayaker.net">mike@kayaker.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv1636236795gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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</div><div style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%;"> I am writing an
article on hypergrid transfers, an attempt to improve my own
understanding, help others understand and perhaps improve the
hypergrid documentation. The things I want to explain in the
article
is the timing: When are permission tests done? And when is
content
data actually copied from grid to grid? I think understanding
this
will make people more comfortable about moving content around
the
metaverse.</div>
<div style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%;"> I have a bunch
of
questions. The documentation at
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Hypergrid">http://opensimulator.org/wiki/ Hypergrid</a>
does not answer them all. I am trying to track down Diva to see
if
she will let me pick her brains. I have tried posting questions
on
IRC. (This comic does a good job of summarizing my opinion of
IRC:
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv1636236795m_-8347453783969787365moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="https://xkcd.com/1782/">https://xkcd.com/1782/</a> ).</div>
<div style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%;"> So next I'll try
asking my questions here. I'll start by asking: Is my
understanding
(below) of the roles of the server and the viewer correct? (Even
before hypergrid is involved.)</div>
<div style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%;"> When you log
into
your home grid, the server sends a copy of your inventory list
to
your viewer. This consists of (mainly) a list of names and
UUIDs. The
UUIDs are links to objects in the asset server, which in turn
are
structures made up of many items linked by UUIDs. At the ends of
all
these links are texture maps, mesh objects, sounds, animations,
etc.</div>
<div style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%;"> When you rez an
object in-world, the inventory entry (just the name and UUID) is
copied from your avatar inventory to the scene inventory of the
region you are in. If you don't have COPY permission to the
object,
the inventory entry is removed from your avatar inventory. The
actual data describing the object isn't involved in this
transfer. It
stayed where it was in the asset server, was not moved, was not
deleted. The data there wasn't even read until someone looked at
the
newly rezzed object and viewers started making requests so they
could
render images of it.</div>
<div style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%;"> Is this
understanding basically correct? If my understanding of this is
correct, I can move on to hypergrid questions.</div>
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