<div dir="ltr">Strong -1.<div><br></div><div>Varregions don't support ODE, therefore megaregions must remain.</div><div><br></div><div>It's important to keep support for ODE because it has significant benefits over BulletSim:</div><div><br></div><div>Most importantly, ODE has consistently good performance, whereas BulletSim sometimes gets into pathological states where it consumes extremely high CPU and makes every avatar in the simulator freeze in place. I reported this bug here: <a href="http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=6789#c26617" target="_blank">http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=6789#c26617</a> , but it's still happening (I checked again last month). This is a huge problem and it's the reason Kitely still uses ODE as the default physics engine. (We provide BulletSim as an option, but we warn users against using it.)</div><div><br></div><div>Second, BulletSim has some strange behavior that ODE doesn't. E.g., in BulletSim my avatar can walk vertically up some large prims! That doesn't happen with ODE.</div><div><br></div><div>Third, some users prefer ODE's behavior, and they have many scripts that are fine-tuned for ODE. Switching to BulletSim would kill their scripts.</div><div><br></div><div>If Varregions supported ODE then it would be ok to eliminate megaregions. But until that happens, megaregions are important and need to remain.</div><div><br></div><div>Oren</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Diva Canto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diva@metaverseink.com" target="_blank">diva@metaverseink.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Yeah, don't worry, there's no rush.
We'll wait for people's input. Eventually support for megaregions
will be dropped. The question is whether to drop it on the next
release or wait a few more months.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 9/4/2015 4:29 PM, Nicky Perian wrote:<br>
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I don't have any technical input but, I don't think a complete
input cannot be provided by posting this at the beginning of a 3
day holiday weekend in the US. Hopefully, a decision will not be
made over this weekend.
<div>Nicky</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:34 PM,
R.Gunther <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rigun@rigutech.nl" target="_blank">rigun@rigutech.nl</a>></span>
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<div>Yes, am fine with it when it get removed. it's not
good.<br>
But i expect some people that get sad because the still
say megaregions work betetr and use that.<br>
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But Kill it ! :)
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On 2015-09-05 00:29, Trinity wrote:<br>
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<div>KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!<br>
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5:00 PM, Diva Canto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diva@metaverseink.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:diva@metaverseink.com" target="_blank">diva@metaverseink.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi everyone,<br>
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We're cleaning up a few things in the code,
and came across megaregions. Now that we have
varregions, there is a strong will among core
devs to remove support for megaregions,
because they were just a temporary hack for
when viewers didn't understand spaces greater
than 256m. Now that they do, the hack seems
unnecessary moving forward. Megaregions
implementation is contrived and makes a lot
code unnecessarily complicated.<br>
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Any objections to its removal?<br>
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Diva<br>
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