<div dir="ltr">Follow-up:<div><br></div><div>I never did get this issue resolved; indeed, it only got less predictable in it's manifestation.</div><div><br></div><div>I was unable to satisfactorily lay the blame at opensim's feet though; there were many other issues, and literally nothing we did in the config files or with the binaries impacted opensim's operation either positively or negatively as far as this suite of parcel-related issues was concerned.</div>
<div><br></div><div>At this point, we're shifting back to 'known good configurations' that really don't involve opensim directly (reinstall the boxes, shift to windows).</div><div><br></div><div>I'm very interested to see whether that impacts the the problem at all.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Will update again after the fact.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Justin Clark-Casey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com" target="_blank">jjustincc@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yeah, there are definitely issues with consistent enforcement of ban lines on avatar movement. I remember looking at that some time ago but unfortunately not a simple thing to properly fix.<div class="">
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On 10/04/14 18:02, James Stallings II wrote:<br>
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I think the default parcel is definitely an edge case. I created a small completely public parcel in the center of the<br>
region, and banned the test avatar outside it; everything works pretty much as one would hope, including the forceful<br>
banlines (it even displayed banlines, ugh). But, as designed.<br>
<br>
There was one problem, seems the av will get stuck to the banlines if s/he attempts crossing them; but a relog fixes it.<br>
In all honesty, not the very worst thing I ever had happen when hitting a banline. I'll see if I can figure out why, though.<br>
<br>
PS I was referring to those elves that left with Bilbo and Frodo for the Distant Shores ;)<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
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On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Melanie <<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com" target="_blank">melanie@t-data.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com" target="_blank">melanie@t-data.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Why, the elves are still around! I know a couple.<br>
<br>
- Melanie<br>
<br>
On 10/04/2014 18:43, James Stallings II wrote:<br>
> Mel, cant get a grep on allow_f* anywhere in the source tree, looks like it<br>
> has gone the way of the elves<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:37 AM, James Stallings II <<br></div><div class="">
> <a href="mailto:james.stallings@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.stallings@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:james.stallings@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.stallings@gmail.<u></u>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I thought I recalled such a thing, been about as long since I looked at it<br>
>> ;)<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Mel<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> James<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br></div><div class="">
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Melanie <<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com" target="_blank">melanie@t-data.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com" target="_blank">melanie@t-data.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Yes. allow_forceful_banlines, I believe. Long time since I looked at it.<br>
>>><br>
>>> - Melanie<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 10/04/2014 18:33, James Stallings II wrote:<br>
>>> > Quick question (related) is there a configuration point I'm missing that<br>
>>> > enables 'forceful bans'?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM, James Stallings II <<br></div><div class="">
>>> > <a href="mailto:james.stallings@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.stallings@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:james.stallings@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.stallings@gmail.<u></u>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> I kinder suspected something to that effect. It goes without saying<br>
>>> that a<br>
>>> >> lot occurs during the login process than is immediately apparent when<br>
>>> one<br>
>>> >> sits and watches the consoles.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Right now I'm leaning towards the previously-mentioned edge case.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br></div><div class="">
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Melanie <<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com" target="_blank">melanie@t-data.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com" target="_blank">melanie@t-data.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >>> The QueryAccess is a pre-authorization. So the double call is<br>
>>> >>> intentional and unavoidable.<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> - Melanie<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> On 10/04/2014 18:14, James Stallings II wrote:<br>
>>> >>> > It would seem that the two invocations of the TestLandRestrictions<br>
>>> >>> method<br>
>>> >>> > in Scene occur in each of NewUserConnection and<br>
>>> >>> > QueryAccess. EventManagerOnAvatarEnteringNe<u></u>wParcel is, fairly<br>
>>> obviously,<br>
>>> >>> > and event callback method; at this point I don't have but a guess<br>
>>> where<br>
>>> >>> > this might be called excepting from<br>
>>> >>> > within EventManagerOnSignificantClien<u></u>tMovement.<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > I'd like to think that the two calls to TestLandRestrictions in<br>
>>> Scene<br>
>>> >>> might<br>
>>> >>> > be reduced to one; but I'm not yet convinced it is the way to go.<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > More to follow.<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > Cheers<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Robert A. Knop Jr. <<br></div>
>>> <a href="mailto:rknop@pobox.com" target="_blank">rknop@pobox.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rknop@pobox.com" target="_blank">rknop@pobox.com</a>><div class=""><br>
>>> >>> >wrote:<br>
>>> >>> ><br>
>>> >>> >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:25:17AM -0500, James Stallings II wrote:<br>
>>> >>> >> > And FWIW, last I hear adding log statements to code is a valid<br>
>>> >>> >> > tried and true debugging method.<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> I wish to subscribe all of my students in my programming class to<br>
>>> your<br>
>>> >>> >> newsletter.<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> (The number of times I told them to print stuff to figure out<br>
>>> where the<br>
>>> >>> >> code was, and the number of times I told them to print in more<br>
>>> places,<br>
>>> >>> >> was phenomenal. They got tired of hearing me say it, but somehow<br>
>>> still<br>
>>> >>> >> needed to hear it.)<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> (They often needed similar guidance in figuring out how to use<br>
>>> >>> >> breakpoints in debuggers.)<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> -Rob<br>
>>> >>> >><br>
>>> >>> >> --<br>
>>> >>> >> --Rob Knop<br></div>
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