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I noticed most users prefer Firestorm and it's considered the best third-party viewer at this day. Although it's a thing of personal preference, I am a bit worried that Firestorm gets all the attention, since I'm not seeing any of the other viewers getting mentioned much since Firestorm is there. Like I said I don't like it because it's very bloated and slow... the ideal viewer for me is one just like the official SL client but with a grid manager, build / upload limits removed, and new features added.<br><br>As far as I know the Second Life viewer is GPL licensed, so distributing it should be possible like any other GPL software. Excluding the Havoc library which supposedly caused OpenSim support to go away. Changes unrelated to the Havoc lib should always be GPL too, so if LL adds something that OpenSim viewer can integrate it should be ok. OpenSim is MIT licensed if I remember right, but there's nothing wrong with distributing a MIT code and a GPL one under the same name and website.<br><br>Building a viewer from scratch is something I don't believe will happen or needs to happen. It would be an enormous amount of work, only to achieve something very similar to what's already there. The SL viewer just needs work in places where Linden didn't give it much attention, but is well optimized in many areas.<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:55:28 +0100<br>From: garmin.kawaguichi@magalaxie.com<br>To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<br>Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenSim's direction after Linden cutting support, and the possibility of an official OpenSim viewer<br><br>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix"><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps"><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps">I much prefer</span> <span class="ecxhps">using</span> <span class="ecxhps">Firestorm</span>
<span class="ecxhps">for</span> <span class="ecxhps">OpenSim</span>
<span class="ecxhps">since</span> <span class="ecxhps">developers
have</span> <span class="ecxhps">clearly separated</span> <span class="ecxhps">Opensim</span> <span class="ecxhps">version</span>
<span class="ecxhps ecxalt-edited">from</span> <span class="ecxhps">the
SL one.</span></span></span> <span class="ecxhps">Firestorm</span>
<span class="ecxhps">431 31155</span> <span class="ecxhps">version</span>
<span class="ecxhps">is very powerful</span> <span class="ecxhps">and
there are</span> <span class="ecxhps">of course some</span> <span class="ecxhps ecxalt-edited">lacks.</span><br class="ecx">
<span class="ecxhps">But</span> <span class="ecxhps">Firestorm</span>
<span class="ecxhps">developers</span> <span class="ecxhps">are very
responsive</span> <span class="ecxhps">and they opened</span> <span class="ecxhps">a section</span> <span class="ecxhps">OpenSim</span>
<span class="ecxhps">in their</span> <span class="ecxhps">Jira (</span></span><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps"><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecxshort_text" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps">successfully tested)</span></span>.</span></span><br>
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<div dir="ltr" style="zoom:1"><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps">On the other hand</span><span>,
we can always</span> <span class="ecxhps">think that people</span>
<span class="ecxhps">who have made</span> <span class="ecxhps">a
server</span> <span class="ecxhps">would be best placed</span>
<span class="ecxhps">to make a</span> <span class="ecxhps">viewer.</span>
<span class="ecxhps">Except that</span> <span class="ecxhps">this
would lead to</span> <span class="ecxhps">a paradoxical
situation</span> <span class="ecxhps">where </span></span><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps">OpenSim</span> <span class="ecxhps"></span></span> <span class="ecxhps">developers</span>
<span class="ecxhps">ask</span> <span class="ecxhps">Linden Lab</span>
<span class="ecxhps">permission to use</span> <span class="ecxhps">sources</span> <span class="ecxhps">V2/3/4,</span>
<span class="ecxhps">keeping in</span> <span class="ecxhps">mind
that</span> <span class="ecxhps">the issue of</span> <span class="ecxhps">licenses</span> <span class="ecxhps">would
remain the same</span> <span class="ecxhps">that with</span><span class="ecxhps"></span> <span class="ecxhps">the</span> <span class="ecxhps">SL</span> <span class="ecxhps">viewer</span> <span class="ecxhps">and the viewer</span> <span class="ecxhps">FireStorm</span><span>.<br>
<br>
As for building </span></span><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps">a viewer</span> <span class="ecxhps">from scratch</span><span class="ecx">,</span>
<span class="ecxhps">as did</span> <span class="ecxhps">our</span>
<span class="ecxhps">realXtend</span> <span class="ecxhps">friends
.... it's </span></span></span></span><span id="ecxresult_box" class="ecx" lang="en"><span class="ecxhps">difficult</span>
<span class="ecxhps">to gather</span> <span class="ecxhps">enough
people</span> <span class="ecxhps">and</span> <span class="ecxhps">get results</span> <span class="ecxhps">in</span>
<span class="ecxhps">a significant delay.<br>
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GCI<br>
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