I'm not thinking of this issue just in the context of a personal grid. In addition to FleepGrid, I also run and manage the grid for my university and I've worked on a zillion enterprise projects besides, so I understand that enterprise needs are very different than private or personal grids. <div>
<br></div><div>But even in an enterprise context, I can't think of a use case when I would not expect the Estate Owner to have the permissions of an Estate Manager. In my understanding, Estate Owner is a superset of Estate Manager. That is, not all Estate Managers are Estate Owners, but all Estate Owners are Estate Managers. It sounds like you're saying at the code level in Opensim that is NOT the case.. ? </div>
<div><br></div><div>If so that's news to me and unexpected behavior.. </div><div><br></div><div>- Chris/Fleep</div><div><br></div><div>Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)</div><div>Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)</div>
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<div>(513) 556-3018</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://ucsim.uc.edu">http://ucsim.uc.edu</a></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Melanie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com">melanie@t-data.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I can't name an EXISTING case in SL, but there is a use for it in<br>
other grids. The mainland owner is, by necessity, a "role account"<br>
that is used by multiple staff persons. Since the "governor linden"<br>
UUID is hardcoded in the viewer, there is no choice but to have such<br>
a role account.<br>
<br>
You do not necessarily want that role account, which may be open for<br>
use by staff who can't be trusted with advanced scripting, to be<br>
able to execute all and sundry functions.<br>
<br>
Please step back from the "privately owned simulator" concept for a<br>
moment and also consider the requirements of security and<br>
compartmentalization in a company running a grid. OpenSim attempts<br>
to cater to both these groups and therefore completely removing<br>
options companies can use in order to make things a little simpler<br>
for hobbyists is not what OpenSim is about. We have thousands of<br>
options just because we try to allow any possible use case.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Melanie<br>
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On 13/04/2012 15:59, Fleep Tuque wrote:<br>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Melanie <<a href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com">melanie@t-data.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> This allows for finer grained control. Please understand that estate<br>
>> owners may be significantly different from estate managers, for<br>
>> instance in the case of a mainland.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hmm, even in the case of mainland in Second Life, the Estate Owner (Guvnor<br>
> Linden) has access to same permissions as Estate Managers. Can you<br>
> describe a use case where the Estate Owner can't do something an Estate<br>
> Manager can? I really can't think of any..<br>
><br>
> - Chris/Fleep<br>
><br>
> Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)<br>
> Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)<br>
> UCIT Instructional & Research Computing<br>
> University of Cincinnati<br>
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> 315 College Drive<br>
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