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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think we should treat this cautiously, but optimistically –
this is a big move for Linden to undertake; it is not quite as significant as a
move to BSD would be, but it is a solid step forward and may eliminate our chief
concerns, and I am of the personal belief it opens some doors to use as far as
contributors co-developing goes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would however ask everyone to please hold from examining the
code until we’ve got a legal opinion on the matter, but I am quietly optimistic
that this may allow us to remove that clause from OpenSim’s own contributor
agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de
[mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David W
Levine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 17 August 2010 6:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<br>
<b>Cc:</b> opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de; opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] LL Viewer code license change<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>If I heard Oz and Esbee correctly, the whole of
the viewer, with the exception of the proprietary libs they use (which I htink
is the KDU jpeg2000 stuff and one or two media codecs at this point) go to
LGPL. You can't mix LGPL and GPL deeply, as Adam's pointed out. I'm not enough
of a LGPL wonk to know exactly where that takes things. I'd think the question
is "does it change the dynamic on "derivative work" I know being
LGPL means that one could link bits direclty into OpenSim legally. That's
straightforward. What's less obvious is whether reading the LGPL code causes
the same issues that<br>
reading GPL code causes. They did point out that they still insist on the
contribution agreement, and that the contribution agreement was why they could
shift licenses. <br>
<br>
- David<br>
` Zha <br>
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style='color:#424282'>"Frisby, Adam" ---08/17/2010 07:30:24 AM---It'll
have to be all LGPL if parts of it are - since the GPL wont accept
redistribution of a mix of</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>"Frisby, Adam"
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Re: [Opensim-dev] LL Viewer code license
change</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’ll have to be
all LGPL if parts of it are – since the GPL wont accept redistribution of a mix
of LGPL and GPL – only pure GPL.</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Check the post
on sldev about it – it looks to me from that one that the intention is for it
all to be LGPL.</span><br>
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<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adam</span><br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de
[<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de">mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dahlia Trimble<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, 17 August 2010 3:53 AM<b><br>
To:</b> opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] LL Viewer code license change</span><br>
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<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ai Austin <</span><a
href="mailto:ai.ai.austin@gmail.com"><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>ai.ai.austin@gmail.com</span></a><span
style='font-size:13.5pt'>> wrote:</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>From: Justin Clark-Casey <</span><a
href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:
13.5pt'>jjustincc@googlemail.com</span></a><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>> </span><br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>As regards to OpenSim contributions, I doubt
that the viewer license change to LGPL will make any difference. LGPL just<br>
makes it possible to link non-GPL code to the viewer code. The viewer co</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>de itself is still virally licensed.</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Justin, where did you get this information? Its
not the way it was presented at SLCC (I watched the entire announcement and
read the postings afterwards by LL). So, its not the way I read it, but we need
to check. They even amended the licence from GPL to LGPL for a lot of the top
level parts of the viewer source code as I examined some of the key
commitdiffs.</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>"for a lot of the top level parts"?
Not the entire code base? I'm curious which parts are now LGPL and which are
not, and if not, what license they are under?</span><br>
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