Heh,<div><br></div><div>I really mangled the language of that last post in this thread; hopefully not so badly that you all don't catch my drift. What can I say, the 'send' button is just a little too eager to be pushed at times.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Feel free to hurl any questions concerning clarifactions to my post, flameballs over my spelling and grammar, etc my way :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div><div>SimHost.com<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:02 PM, James Stallings II <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james.stallings@gmail.com">james.stallings@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Diva (and all of those helping with this piece),<div><br></div><div>I am delighted to see this discussion unfolding. I fell this functional 'hole' has been crippling opensimulator adoption in many respects for some time.</div>
<div><br></div><div>That said, I wish to add that for a time I felt rather passionately that this belonged in core. My passions haven't really abated in that respect, but will say that I've begun to question my commitment to the idea that it belongs in core. In explanation, I'd summarize as saying that it's the ready availability of the functionality to me, in as streamlined a fashion as possible.</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, I think the way it is resolving for me is that were there to be improved support for installing and operating so-called 'third party' applications alongside opensimulator, it would not only address my concerns with respect to what I feel is a limitation of functionality that is injurious to the growth of the ecosystem (tip o the tam to JustinCC here), I think that concern would be addressed in spades with a better (hopefully more automated) approach to managing our add-in modules, and I would heartily encourage any efforts anyone was willing to extend along these lines :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Speaking of support, I am looking forward to this code being pronounced ready for primetime use -- and as with everything I actively use, you can count on me to be ready to support it for all comers.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Kudos to you all!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div><div>SimHost.com</div><div><br><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:31 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diva@metaverseink.com" target="_blank">diva@metaverseink.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have very mixed feelings about where to draw the line. It's tempting to add more things to core, but where do we stop? We can't just put everything in.<br>
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A better approach might be to somehow make it easy for people to get and install 3rd party packages. I'm going to try to make it easy for ppl to add Wifi to their installations. The issue here is dll version compatibility, so we'll see how far the ease can go.<div>
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Justin Clark-Casey wrote:<br>
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On 04/08/10 22:52, Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:<br>
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On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Michael Cerquoni wrote:<br>
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Justin is correct, this functionality is not part of OpenSimulator<br>
core code, its only in Divas release, i do not think the intention is<br>
to put it into core either, but i could be mistaken about that, maybe<br>
diva can clarify that better.<br>
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I don't have any political issue with moving it to core, but,<br>
technically, I don't think it belongs there. Simulators have better<br>
things to do than serve html.<br>
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I must admit, one part of me would be very happy to see it in core since it does provide the basics for managing small OpenSim installations (default avatars, account creation, password recovery, etc.).<br>
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On the other hand, I'm always concerned about expansion of core - we already have 500,000 lines of code to support and this probably isn't going to shrink any time soon (though the number has been surprisingly static since the beginning of 2010). And if we include wifi there's the question of where one draws the feature line (do we accept patches and hence have to support lots of other front end code?). I'm not sure if this would conflict with what Diva wants to do with wifi.<br>
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On balance, I would actually be in favor of including wifi in core. I think the benefits in terms of making OpenSim easier to pick up (hence growing the long-term ecosystem) would outweigh the extra support burden, as long as we were happy to limit the functionality that would go into it.<br>
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