One problem i see with this, is that from the OpenSimulator perspective, UGAIM has been removed from the code and Replaced with ROBUST services, which are vastly different. It seems like a huge mistake to try to replicate something thats no longer being used, are your plans to bring this up to a ROBUST level or just continue to use older versions of OpenSimulator only to connect?<br>
<br>Also in terms of integrating a CMS into Simian, i am not really sure that is the goal of this project, I think if your interested in having a pre-done CMS work with Simian there needs to be some kind of external connector API that allows for it, that can be included in Simian, but i honestly don't think anyone involved wants any kind of pre-done CMS package to be included with SimianGrid services, I know for sure I don't.<br>
<br>if you have questions about SimianGrid please join #vwrap on <a href="http://freenode.net">freenode.net</a> to discuss it further.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Impalah Shenzhou <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:impalah@gmail.com">impalah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi,<br>
<br>
unga is another support system for opensimulators, like robust (former<br>
ugaim) or simian. I haven't tested simian (I only know the<br>
documentation on google code) so I can't compare them :-(<br>
<br>
¿Connectors? Well, the same as robust, by now. Only http connectors<br>
(REST, xml-rpc and so on). The web server is the responsible to<br>
control all the low level stuff.<br>
<br>
unga is based on the old UGAIM servers, so the interface it exposes is<br>
the same, but can be published anything (http, by now).<br>
<br>
Some things unga provide:<br>
- Pluggable modules (create a module/service, install an use).<br>
- Configurable caches (file, memcache, apc, xcache).<br>
- Hooks system (like drupal's).<br>
- Auth information separated from profile.<br>
- A role/permissions system.<br>
- The old UGAIM services.<br>
- Graphical management (ajax)...<br>
<br>
<br>
About collaboration... of course. I'm opened to anything but, by now,<br>
I will continue developing unga on PHP and testing it on all the web<br>
servers I can, to get a stable version. I want to have a reliable and<br>
fast (or very fast) support system for opensim/whateversim and now I<br>
have only 75% of this.<br>
<br>
Anyway all the documentation for unga will be published on the project<br>
wiki. If anyone wants to use parts or ideas taken from it, is free for<br>
doing it (MIT license is similar to BSD) and I will be pleased to<br>
help.<br>
<br>
Greetings<br>
<br>
<br>
2010/4/7, Jeroen van Veen <<a href="mailto:j.veenvan@gmail.com">j.veenvan@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> Impalah,<br>
><br>
> How does unga compare to simian? Does it use it's own connectors? About<br>
> writing for django/tornado: i'm currently writing a webfrontend(hwios,<br>
> <a href="http://forge.opensimulator.org/gf/project/hwios/" target="_blank">http://forge.opensimulator.org/gf/project/hwios/</a>) with python/django and<br>
> twisted(comparable to tornado), and have done alot of basic stuff so far. I<br>
> was<br>
> wondering if it would be possible to combine some of the work being done by<br>
> several teams(unga/simian/hwios), so we prevent reinventing the wheel. I'm<br>
> most of the time in #hwios/#hwios-dev @ freenode if you have any<br>
> questions(or<br>
> through mail offcourse)<br>
><br>
> kind regards,<br>
><br>
> Jeroen / Phrearch<br>
><br>
> On Friday 02 April 2010 17:00:30 Impalah Shenzhou wrote:<br>
>> Hi:<br>
>><br>
>> For those of you who could be interested I have uploaded to sourceforge<br>
>> the<br>
>> code and documentation for unga, my UGAIM server projects programmed in<br>
>> PHP<br>
>> and based on Code Igniter framework.<br>
>><br>
>> I haven't finished yet all the testing, but is 100% operative for Apache<br>
>> (windows & *IX) and php 5.2.X (5.3 NO!). It should work with all the<br>
>> opensim 0.6.X versions, but maybe some methods are not implemented yet<br>
>> (overall presence).<br>
>><br>
>> My tests have been done with 3 opensim servers running on different<br>
>> machines (an old Intel celeron 512 mb ram, one Intel core duo 3Gb ram and<br>
>> a brand new Amd64 4Gb ram) serving 6 regions each with a media of 4000<br>
>> objects per region (2 of the regions have 18000 prims). I have used 4<br>
>> avatar for the tests... yes... they are few, I know. I will try tests with<br>
>> libopenmetaverse bots in the near future.<br>
>><br>
>> Warning: the database model is almost totally incompatible with current<br>
>> opensim/Robust (I am developing a migration method actually) so, right<br>
>> now,<br>
>> please don't use unga for serving existing grids.<br>
>><br>
>> I haven't finished all the docs, and interesting sections about integrated<br>
>> caching, for example, are not event started, but I think the main docs<br>
>> should allow anyone with minimal knodlegge about apache to run an unga<br>
>> grid.<br>
>><br>
>> So... the links:<br>
>><br>
>> - Project page on sourceforge: <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/unga/" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/projects/unga/</a><br>
>> - Documentation wiki (install instructions, project dos...):<br>
>> <a href="https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unga" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unga</a><br>
>><br>
>> The last thing... unga is only another alternative or a complement to<br>
>> ROBUST. It has all the advantages and glitches of any application deployed<br>
>> on a web server. In this case, I feel more confortable having a well<br>
>> tested<br>
>> web server controlling all the "under http" stuff. PHP was only the<br>
>> inmediate language to make unga possible, but my future plans include the<br>
>> migration to Python platforms/frameworks (Django and Tornado).<br>
>><br>
>> Enjoy it.<br>
>><br>
>> Greetings<br>
>><br>
>> Impalah<br>
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