UGAIM servers are simply a bunch of http services (xml-rpc and REST) so is not too difficult to move them to any standard CMS.<br><br>Dotnetnuke is only a "pure" .NET alternative that will allow to use the existing components natively without rewriting all the internal code. You could have both a complete CMS and the UGAIM servers. It's one of the many ways to make a comfortable environment for administrators/users.<br>
<br>But... personally I don't like aspx, IIS and all the related .NET stuff for serving http. For me it's too heavy (not as heavy loaded as Java, but heavy anyway).<br><br>So...<br><br>Buried in the forge there was, some time ago, a Perl implementation of UGAIM and worked quite well (with its limitations). I tried myself to implement ugaim as Drupal modules, but the performance was horrible compared with existing UGAIM... so I tried another frameworks.<br>
<br>Actually I have a complete UGAIM implementation using the high performance Code Igniter PHP framework. With its backend, it's AJAXified windows, its scalability given by Apache and all that kind of funny things.<br>
<br>That's what I did, but I understand that Opensim Core shouldn't cover that kind of stuff. Existing UGAIM/ROBUST are implementation examples and cover the basic needs of the opensim simulator.<br><br>Python/Ironpython is another alternative, using Django, TornadoWeb, Twister, or even Zope.<br>
<br>Java could be an alternative too (not for me, I hate Java after years of pain with it).<br><br>What I am trying to say is that there are as many alternative as people on the lists. Opensim provides us with one basic alternative (ugaim/robust) and if we don't like it... well, we are free to create ours.<br>
<br>There is only one thing I really miss for making this: the interfaces between simultator->UGAIM are not clearly documented and we have to navigate into code to konow what we have to do.<br><br>That's my opinion but if you don't like, I have more.<br>
<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/1/8 Tom Willans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom.willans@bessacarr.com">tom.willans@bessacarr.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div><br></div>.NET is ok and I appreciate why it was used for OpenSim, but most of the CMS systems that I have come across and may want to integrate are not .NET such as Joomla, Drupal. Would this mean installing Mono on all systems, not just the OpenSim systems? Still a helpful alternative to consider.<div>
<br></div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div><div>On 7 Jan 2010, at 20:39, Impalah Shenzhou wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">If someone is looking for some kind of purity (using exclusively .NET for web management) recently I have discovered <a href="http://www.dotnetnuke.com/" target="_blank">http://www.dotnetnuke.com/</a><br>
<br>Is a CMS (like Alfresco, Drupal, Joomla...) but runs over .NET. It shouldn't be too difficult to connect the native Opensim components to get/set data instead of accessing directly to database.<br> <br>Greetings<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/1/7 Fly Man <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fly.man.opensim@gmail.com" target="_blank">fly.man.opensim@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
In other words:<br><br>Wiredux won't use those connectors but will grab to the database itself. Wiredux is not a .NET application so it will go directly to the database.<br><br>I will wait until the refactoring is done, have a look what's wrecked and maybe fix it.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/1/5 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diva@metaverseink.com" target="_blank">diva@metaverseink.com</a>></span><div><div></div><div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Putting PHP in front of the DBs is one of the most natural things to do<br> from here on -- not just the things that Wiredux does, but for a lot<br> more! In fact, the entire collection of OpenSim.Services that are<br> provided as reference implementations can be replaced with<br>
implementations in Apache+PHP.<br> <br> Calls from the simulators to the services are now all neatly packaged in<br> OpenSim.Services.Connectors (these are the "out" connectors). Just<br> browse through those connectors and check out the wire protocols, then<br>
do the receiving end in PHP. Many of them are using standard web forms,<br> others use XMLRPC, others use custom-made HTTP-based dialects.<br> <br> Calls from outside to the simulators are packaged in<br> OpenSim.Server.Handlers. Again, check them out and, if not using .NET,<br>
write your own client for them. If using .NET/mono you can import the<br> DLL OpenSim.Connectors.dll, and reuse the existing connectors as-is.<br> <br> But that's not all. Since now the interactions between the simulators<br>
and the resource services are all formalized in interfaces<br> (OpenSim.Services.Interfaces), and the handlers and connectors in the<br> simulator are loaded dynamically, you can replace the connectors and<br> handlers themselves. In other words, if you want OpenSim to talk web<br>
services, roll your own Web Services handlers and connectors under those<br> interfaces, and you're done -- you'll have to use .NET for this part,<br> though.<br> <div><br> Tom Willans wrote:<br> > Hi,<br> ><br>
> First thanks for all your work.<br> ><br> > I assume from this that the webredux will no longer work without<br> > modification and will need updating. ( Thanks again here).<br> > Is there any information about the new authentication approach anywhere,<br>
> if not in detail then an overview. Is LDAP on the horizon?<br> ><br> > I am mostly interested in linking php based frontends to opensim and<br> > hence accessing the database directly. Particularly relevant is moving<br>
> away from using UUIDs.<br> > Please forgive me if I am missing something but I assume there are no<br> > web-services that can be called and calling C# from php is not a very<br> > good solution.<br> ><br>
> Thanks.<br> > Tom<br> > On 5 Jan 2010, at 10:37, Ai Austin wrote:<br> ><br> >> At 18:32 04/01/2010, <a href="mailto:opensim-dev-request@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev-request@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
</div><div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-request@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev-request@lists.berlios.de</a>> wrote:<br> >>> To be honest, I don't think Sqlite should be a database type that we<br>
>>> (OpenSim) should keep alive in the project,<br> >><br> >><br> >> It is useful to have a double click and go out of the box solution<br> >> which people can try out and test with.<br> >><br>
>> One other use of SQLite that I am aware of and fine very useful is<br> >> for the really simple and handy single region hosted on your own<br> >> system that is connected to the New World Grid for any avatar using<br>
>> the "New World Studio" packaged version of Opensim. See<br> >> <a href="http://www.newworldgrid.com/lang/en-us/land/free-land" target="_blank">http://www.newworldgrid.com/lang/en-us/land/free-land</a><br>
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