Maybe for standalone and hypergrid, but Windows/.NET is not an option for me when my servers have to be published to the whole world.<br><br>Call me paranoid but I don't trust in Windows for any kind of server. The experience (or maybe torture) in my everyday job with Windows servers is that they are intrinsically unsecure and have poor performance (unless you have a bunch of to spend in hardware).<br>
<br>My fear is "well, I update my servers now, no problem, everything is all right", and 2 months later someone of the core team decided that "a new thing from mono 3.4 is needed" and again I have to "run forward" with the mono versions of my servers. 2 months later, the same, and again, and again...<br>
<br>I know that is alpha, open source, collaborative and with an "as-is" license, but, seriously, it doesn't mean chaos. I am really frustrated, overall when I read a message in the list with something like "update to version XXX".<br>
<br>But this is only my "user" and "utilities developer" point of view. I rarely develop for opensim core, but I use opensim for developing applications...<br><br>Greetings<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2009/8/4 Brianna <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wwwench@gmail.com">wwwench@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">For stability in the attic ... I have a
hosted standalone OpenSim with .Net Framework that has been rock solid for
208 days, that choice is available.</font></div>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:27
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] Minimum
OpenSim mono version now 2.4? (was Re:[Opensim-commits] r10113 - trunk)</div>
<div><br></div>Please allow me to be cynic but... For using/developing
for/testing trunk Opensim versions I am forced to tweak my stable and well
patched Linux and to include an unstable mono version which I have no
guarantee about everything will work (maybe with 2.4, maybe with 2.5, maybe
with future 2.9)...<br><br>Too much unstability in the basement, even for an
"alpha code" project, I think.<br><br>When will be available a stable version
for testing the new things (beyond 0.6.*)? Actually I have "fear of the trunk"
and I am limited to old 0.6 versions for developing utilities... quite
frustrating.<br><br>Greetings<br><br><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/4 Nebadon Izumi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nebadon2025@gmail.com" target="_blank">nebadon2025@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Ive written these instructions for compiling mono from SVN
and the Daily tarball for mono 2.5 if it helps anyone..<br><br>Daily Tarbal
: <a href="http://www.osgrid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1334" target="_blank">http://www.osgrid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1334</a><br>Trunk
SVN : <a href="http://www.osgrid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=539" target="_blank">http://www.osgrid.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=539</a><br><br>while
opensim runs well on mono 2.4 it runs a lot better on 2.5 trunk.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Ideia Boa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ideiaboa@gmail.com" target="_blank">ideiaboa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">I've these instructions for building
mono 2.4 from sources on Ubuntu, very helpful: <a href="http://blog.ruski.co.za/page/Install-Mono-on-Ubuntu.aspx" target="_blank">http://blog.ruski.co.za/page/Install-Mono-on-Ubuntu.aspx</a><br><br>Ideia
Boa<a href="http://www.worldsimterra.com" target="_blank"><br>WorldSimTerra</a><br><br>orion hax wrote:
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<div>The repos only have 2.0.1 for ubuntu but it will compile 2.4 just
fine from tar and SVN.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Christophe,
Jean-Charles Narbonne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christophe31@gmail.com" target="_blank">christophe31@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Also there are repositorys with mono for ubuntu or
opensuse, (I use Opensuse for my server but on my desktop I tryed
upgrade mono from jauty repos, there was no other dependences than
mono and it worked well for desktop apps...)<br><br>Reguards
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Teravus Ovares
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:teravus@gmail.com" target="_blank">teravus@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Whoops, scratch that.. opensim-libs, not
opensim-dev :)<br><font color="#888888"><br>-Teravus<br></font>
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<div><br>On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Teravus Ovares<<a href="mailto:teravus@gmail.com" target="_blank">teravus@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> The
HttpServer makes use of 2.4 specific things. It's
in<br>> OpenSim-dev, if you can compile it with less
requirements, by all<br>> means.<br>><br>>
Regards<br>><br>> Teravus<br>><br>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009
at 1:44 PM, Justin<br>> Clark-Casey<<a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com" target="_blank">jjustincc@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Hi
Teravus. I take it this means that mono 2.0.1 is no longer
usable with trunk? This is somewhat inconvenient
since<br>>> Ubuntu and OpenSUSE still ship mono 2.0.1 in their
distros (though both will include 2.4 in the next release).
But if<br>>> mono 2.0.1 is now unusable then that's just
how it is.<br>>><br>>> I'm also not sure if mono 2.4
still has the 'mini-trampoline' assertion VM termination when many
scripts are being<br>>> loaded on initial startup (this
problem isn't present in mono 2.0.1).<br>>><br>>> <a href="mailto:teravus@opensimulator.org" target="_blank">teravus@opensimulator.org</a> wrote:<br>>>>
Author: teravus<br>>>> Date: 2009-08-01 11:59:34 -0700
(Sat, 01 Aug 2009)<br>>>> New Revision:
10113<br>>>><br>>>> Modified:<br>>>>
trunk/README.txt<br>>>> Log:<br>>>> *
Update ReadMe.txt to reflect feedback by
testers<br>>>><br>>>> Modified:
trunk/README.txt<br>>>>
===================================================================<br>>>>
--- trunk/README.txt 2009-08-01 14:26:00 UTC (rev
10112)<br>>>> +++ trunk/README.txt 2009-08-01
18:59:34 UTC (rev 10113)<br>>>> @@ -25,7 +25,7
@@<br>>>> == Installation on Linux
==<br>>>><br>>>> Prereqs:<br>>>> -
* Mono >= 2.0.1 (>= 2.4.2 is better)<br>>>> + * Mono
>= 2.4 (>= 2.4.2 is better)<br>>>> * Nant
>= 0.86beta<br>>>> * sqlite3 or mysql 5.x (you'll
need a backend
database)<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>
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