<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I'm not sure how realistic it is to try to do a feature freeze, as some of our developers mainly do their work outside the main core (and work in modules etc). So a feature freeze might just see them not doing any commits during that time. <br><br>But in general I'm a +1 to focusing on bug fixing. A good start would be to restart the friday afternoon bugathons thats we used to have. <br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 1/6/09, Frisby, Adam <i><adam@deepthink.com.au></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Frisby, Adam <adam@deepthink.com.au><br>Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion<br>To: "opensim-dev@lists.berlios..de" <opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de><br>Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 5:10 AM<br><br><div id="yiv1390984215">
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[mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Hart<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 31 May 2009 6:44 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">It’s ambitious, and I think most unlikely that mantis can be
completely cleared, but there are probably some juicy ones in there that could
be tackled that would benefit the project if they were resolved. It’s an
ambitious call, but throw in a little reality and there is something achievable
in here and I think it’s worth considering.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Consolidating efforts at present time, making a base to move
forward from that is a bit more clear cut and defined, and generally polishing
up what we have now sounds good idea to me, but then I admit I don’t do nearly
as much dev for OpenSim trunk as many others on this list. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">I kinda like Stefan’s crazy plan, so +1 from me. </span></p>
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[mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nebadon Izumi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 May 2009 14:35<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span lang="EN-GB">I can agree
with that, if everyone else agrees i have no problem with it, I would just hate
for anyone to think that we are locking things up and they wont have our
support. And mostly i was more concerned with trying to clear mantis,
that seams a bit unrealistic, as a good portion of fixing the mantis probably
rely on us instituting many feature requests. It kind of goes against the
whole premise of freezing up feature requests.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Stefan
Andersson <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stefan@tribalmedia.se" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=stefan@tribalmedia..se">stefan@tribalmedia.se</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Wise from experience, I would never
propose anything as preposterous as to tell any core dev to do anything.<br>
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But if a substantial part of core devs and the patching community think it's a
good idea and can be swayed to rally for it, I think we can see some really
extraordinary measures that would make us all look pretty god damn good.<br>
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And hell, I stated it would be ambitious. Aim for the stars, hit
the treetops, you know.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Stefan Andersson<br>
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From: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nebadon2025@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=nebadon2025@gmail.com">nebadon2025@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
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Have you even looked at mantis??? there are 728 open tickets, chances are if we
clear mantis, we will have OpenSimulator 1.0.. I personally don't see this as
feasible, this is to me looks like us trying to control what all the developers
are doing, and I have to -1 this idea as it would probably make most devs just
stop working.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Stefan
Andersson <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stefan@tribalmedia.se" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=stefan@tribalmedia.se">stefan@tribalmedia.se</a>>
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I do believe we're all feeling the advent of 0.7 - a milestone in any open
source project.<br>
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Here's a crazy idea for you; how about we agree to freeze feature set and
major architecture as of now, and concentrate on only:<br>
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* Finalizing the backend restructuring<br>
* Clear mantis (hell, let's CLEAR mantis! how's that for ambitious?)<br>
* Write unit tests<br>
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until the cows come home, and tag the cow homecoming rev as 0.7? Or,
say, 1st of aug happens, and we'll tag 0.6.7 then instead. ;)<br>
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I believe this kind of solidified 0.7 would give us all a breather, help us
recoup, and then we can all go back to fiddling with our various dev projects
again.<br>
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What you say?<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Stefan Andersson<br>
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