<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;">Dear Fly-Man:<br><br>I would like to suggest we step back from a "point of honor" and try to figure out how to work together.<br><br>There are times in this project when passions rise high and this is one of those times. I would really like to find a way to move forward without pushing anyone into a corner.<br><br>Your enthusiasm, work ethic and code has been good for the grid deployments and all I can say is that I am sorry that you and others have gotten to the place where the need exists to make the statements said today.<br><br>So, please, please, lets figure out how to just work together.<br><br>Charles<br><br><br><br><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Fly Man <fly.man.opensim@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:53:35 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge<br></font><br>
Kyle, please read back what I posted earlier before you start to throw<br>with words that I won't respond to:<br><br>* There's 2 people that just need to apoligize and then we can all get<br>back to what we're good in.<br><br>Unless those people step up and take responsibilty about their<br>actions, then it means that on the 2nd of June<br>I need to consult with a lawyer about the further steps that need to be taken<br><br>2009/6/1 Kyle Hamilton <<a ymailto="mailto:aerowolf@gmail.com" href="mailto:aerowolf@gmail.com">aerowolf@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> How about you check out the subversion tree at the last revision<br>> without the "whole mess that it is now"? That's what revision control<br>> systems are for, so you can check out old revisions. You can control<br>> your own experience -- while everyone else can cooperate as they want<br>> to.<br>><br>> You should do this instead of bitching on the mailing list
and<br>> essentially saying "IT'S MY BALL AND I'M GOING HOME".<br>><br>> You're thus making a huge deal out of, literally, nothing. Which<br>> means you're a drama whore at best, and a troll at worst.<br>><br>> Get a grip. I will also point out that the main OpenSim project trunk<br>> isn't clean, and that branches are made to maintain specific<br>> milestones, and so your objection to "as long as the main trunk is<br>> clean" isn't even in line with what the community has (loosely)<br>> standardized on. Yes, this might fly in the face of other projects'<br>> conventions, but this is what we have to deal with and have to live<br>> with as a part of working with OpenSim.<br>><br>> -Kyle H<br>><br>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Fly Man <<a ymailto="mailto:fly.man.opensim@gmail.com" href="mailto:fly.man.opensim@gmail.com">fly.man.opensim@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> Ideia,
this problem can easily be resolved by 2 people that just say<br>>> sorry and revert back the things that they added to the OpenSimWiredux<br>>> so I can take a clean copy of the code without the whole mess that it<br>>> is now.<br>>><br>>> So, in other words as some won't know what I said on #opensim-dev:<br>>><br>>> Jamenai: Please send me an email, explaining why you added things to<br>>> the Wiredux, stating that you didn't contact me before adding this and<br>>> that you will revert the source back to the rev that I added. It's<br>>> okay with me to make a new branch where you fiddle with all your stuff<br>>> as long as the main trunk is clean<br>>><br>>> Nebadon: Please send me an email, telling me that you were wrong to<br>>> think that I left the scene just because of the Money Debacle. And<br>>> that you did know about me being in a small holiday until the
1st of<br>>> June as mentioned in several announcements that I did on all the IRC<br>>> channels.<br>>><br>>> When those 2 people have made their excuses, I will no longer have a<br>>> need to ask for deletion of the projects and will be a happy camper<br>>> once again.<br>>><br>>> It's not in my natural nature to be like this, but for some people<br>>> this might sound like nagging.<br>>><br>>> No, it's not nagging, it's getting right what is wrong at this moment.<br>>><br>>> 2009/6/1 Ideia Boa <<a ymailto="mailto:ideiaboa@gmail.com" href="mailto:ideiaboa@gmail.com">ideiaboa@gmail.com</a>>:<br>>>> Fly-Man<br>>>><br>>>> I do not know who is right in your disagreement, but I think if you had<br>>>> something you were thinking that was not being done in the most correct, I<br>>>> think the only way would have launched the
discussion on mail-list<br>>>> #opensim-dev and not just you away from everything and remove the work you<br>>>> did, the work of all is very important and only a small opinion can make a<br>>>> difference.<br>>>><br>>>> See that I am not defending anyone, I'm only making an observation of what I<br>>>> read in a mail-list<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Ideia Boa<br>>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.worldsimterra.com">www.worldsimterra.com</a><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Fly Man wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> Addition to the previous message:<br>>>><br>>>> This means that all the source needs to be deleted as stated under<br>>>> BSD.license and will not be re-uploaded to the Gforge or any other Gforge or<br>>>> SVN like system.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>
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