<div>Colin/Rock,</div><div><br></div><div>To answer your questions:</div><div><br></div><div>1) I'm working on updating pages, and working on navigation as we speak, so please just give me a week or two just get all the WIKI pages updated, and get the navigation updated. I'm working on some new icons as well. I just need a bit of time. ;-)</div>
<div><br></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">> If you downloaded the latest trunk, and you found serious problems, and went to the wiki page, where would any early </span></span><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">> adopter look first to find out what might be the cause? The Home page? Support page? News? Downloads? Developer's Docs? </span></span></div>
<div><br></div><div>2) Your best bet would be to check out the list of known bugs, and reference the bug tracking link. It points directly to Mantis, and it's the best place to look for known bugs, or to report a new bug.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It's best to keep all the bug reporting in one area, so that way the developers can at least see the problems/known bugs that need to be worked on. We could create hundreds of different WIKI pages for listing bugs, but the developers would never find them, and that's why all the page links are all pointing back to Mantis. I will create a "Status" page that we can update with current "known issues", but I'm still working on it. So please just give us some time.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The developers are working hard on developing, and they know to check Mantis, and it's the best place for them to see, check and read about known bugs, or new bug reports. Developers don't have time to sift through WIKI pages searching for new posted bugs. So the most recent bugs are all posted in Mantis. A user could post a bug report anywhere, or even write the description of a bug report on the sidewalk in front of your house with chalk, but it's HIGHLY unlikely that it will get much attention, or the issue will ever get read (or resolved) by the developers who need to know about it. So your best bet, is Mantis.</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://opensimulator.org/mantis/my_view_page.php">http://opensimulator.org/mantis/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>If you look at the "Bug Tracking" link on the left hand side of the OpenSim WIKI nagivation menu, you'll see a link called "Bug Tracking" and it points to Mantis. That is where you would go to learn about new bugs, or report new bugs. I will work on adding a "Status" page to the navigation, and I'll work on updating that page with the latest "Known Issues". But please give me about 2 more weeks as I'm sifting through all the WIKI pages and updating the WIKI right now, so I will get to it. Just give me a bit of time.</div>
<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">> I tried all them and could not find one word.</span></span><div><br></div><div>
Try Mantis. It's the best place to look. If you don't find it there, then post a message to the Dev-list. Certainly one of the developers will be glad to help you, and if it's an "unknown" bug, or something fairly recent then you can always post a new bug report using Mantis. If you really need help, then drop me an e-mail (off-list) and I'll try to give you a hand, or point you to someone who can.</div>
<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">>Navigating the wiki to find info should be much more intuitive, and a link all important new info should be on either</span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">> the Home page or the News page, IMO.</span></span></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, as I stated previously, I've been working on updating OS user documentation, as well as the WIKI pages. I'm in the middle of creating a new "Status" page. Please just give me a bit more time, there are only 24 hours in a day. Please give me about 2 more weeks, and I'll have most of the WIKI pages updated and hopefully things will be a bit easier for you to navigate and find information. If you have any immediate problems, concerns, complaints or suggestions please drop me an E-mail (off-list) and I'll work on helping you.</div>
<div><br></div><div> Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div> Mark</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. I'm adding a few new icons to the navigation menu (one for news, and one for status), but we try hard not to clutter up the home page. I am working on the navigation though, and that is on my long list of things to do. I'm slowly combing through all the pages, and working on navigation, and navigation links. I really need about 2 more weeks though. Thank-you. If you're having a problem just drop me an e-mail off-list, and I'll try to help you, or I'll at least point you to the correct WIKI page (or point you to some documentation). ;-)</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Colin B. Withers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int">Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="color:#1F497D">The recent thread on 'breaking
OpenSim.ini changes', and on the importance of brief notes to keep people aware
of who is doing what, and the pertinent link that was provided in that
discussion, </span><a href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Services_and_Service_Connectors_Configuration" target="_blank">http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Services_and_Service_Connectors_Configuration</a>
highlights another problem. Information is not much use if people cannot find
it.</p>
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<p>It is clear from the feedback in the #opensim channel that
people are NOT finding this info. I use the wiki often and still have problems
finding info, I only found this link by being in this mailing list also. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Can anyone tell me how someone arriving at the wiki Home
page could intuitively navigate to the above wiki page? I tried various keyword
searches, all of which failed to find the page, but again, you would need to
know what keywords the writer used, and what the underlying problem was.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>If you downloaded the latest trunk, and you found serious
problems, and went to the wiki page, where would any early adopter look first
to find out what might be the cause? The Home page? Support page? News?
Downloads? Developer's Docs? I tried all them and could not find one word.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Navigating the wiki to find info should be much more
intuitive, and a link all important new info should be on either the Home page
or the News page, IMO.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Rock</p>
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