<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>No, this is certainly not a big business development. It is an opensource development. <br><br>And as such, our early adopters are our partners in this development.<br><br>This is a plea to you, Melanie, to write a few blog, wiki, or FAQ entries, or mentor someone to write them for you.<br><br>For an example, see Adam's blog where he has described his work on MRM along the way. And that is very good. It allows early adoptors to have a bit of an understanding of what has been created.<br><br>If you would merely consider writing down a few things once in a while, then I think this whole situation will get better for you.<br><br>Charles<br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><font size="2"
face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Melanie <melanie@t-data.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:05:11 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes<br></font><br>
Charles,<br><br>I develop out in the open, commit early and often. Most of these <br>past 100 commits were not meant to be used by anyone but myself and <br>Diva. It's a work in progress in a work area and documentation would <br>have been premature.<br><br>The asset system, since it now functions, can and will be <br>documented. But to demand big$$$business development and <br>documentation practices is not what opensim is about. Trunk is <br>supposed to be broken and usually is. Even if the brokenness only <br>consists in no one being able to use it. We can't document when it <br>is expected that everything will change again anyway.<br><br>This is a huge refactor. We had them before, where trunk was <br>unusable for months on end. This is another one of them. Please bear <br>with us.<br><br>Melanie<br><br>Charles Krinke wrote:<br>> No, this is not talking about anything to death, Melanie. This is about writing down for others to read and understand
at least *some* of what you are trying to accomplish.<br>> <br>> This can be done via blogs, wiki paragraphs, FAQ, or other.<br>> <br>> This feeling has been a long time coming, Melanie, and this is a plea for you to write down at least *some* of what you are doing so that there are clues for the early adopters to read and understand.<br>> <br>> Charles<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Melanie <<a ymailto="mailto:melanie@t-data.com" href="mailto:melanie@t-data.com">melanie@t-data.com</a>><br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:47:55 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes<br>> <br>> Well said. Trunk is supposed to be the developers' work area. If we <br>> can't use trunk as a work area anymore, maybe
things should be in <br>> branches!<br>> This is work in progress, and there will be breaking changes, and <br>> lots more. Documenting as we go it not an option, since we <br>> frequently have to go back and change things after the fact. Much <br>> easier to document when it's done than to keep remembering what is <br>> already on the wiki and where, and to update it whenever some small <br>> thing needs to be changed.<br>> This is about code development, not about the general usability of <br>> trunk. Trunk is supposed to be broken, we have releases for people <br>> who expect things to JustWork(tm).<br>> <br>> Now, let's get this work done and not talk it to death in committee.<br>> <br>> Melanie<br>> <br>> Nebadon Izumi wrote:<br>>> I have to somewhat disagree here, not fully though, while i do agree perhaps<br>>> there can be better ways of informing everyone, I do not agree with
lumping<br>>> all changes into 1 update, this is an Alpha level development project,<br>>> whatever happened to Trunk is supposed to be broken. My only suggestion to<br>>> those who find difficulties at the time being midway through this refactor<br>>> process, do not upgrade your regions beyond 9561 for the time being, and<br>>> when the refactoring is complete we will sound the all clear whistle. But<br>>> for now expecting this to be perfect 1/2 through a giant refactoring is<br>>> probably not something any of us should do.<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> <br>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>> <br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Opensim-dev mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de"
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