<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I shouldve made it clear that these will be split into different modules. So those that don't want economy won't have to use that module. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:33 PM, "Chris Hart" <<a href="mailto:Chris@codetorque.co.uk">Chris@codetorque.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I can understand why groups and economy could be linked for
various reasons, but I would personally prefer that sort of thing broken apart –
just sharing on building via groups, sharing objects with group, would all be
really lovely to have, whereas economy is less of an immediate issue for me (even
moreso with rumours of further complications regarding taxation for in-world
purchasing <a href="http://15timez.blogspot.com/2009/02/sl-in-world-transactions-to-be-taxed.html"><a href="http://15timez.blogspot.com/2009/02/sl-in-world-transactions-to-be-taxed.html">http://15timez.blogspot.com/2009/02/sl-in-world-transactions-to-be-taxed.html</a></a>)
since I have no aspirations to be a banker or accountant. Having it as an
optional extra would be great should my opinion be changed on this matter! </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Groups for chat, groups for building – yes please! Completely
understand others wanting & demanding economy and have no desire to dampen
any efforts in that area, but if the two are unlinkable in your project then
would very much like to see some alternative projects in development. I don’t
see particularly why basic groups like that would have to be a forge project
either, rather than a core feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Just my 2p.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Chris / Strawberry <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de">mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael
Huntington<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 February 2009 20:55<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de"><a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] Groups in OpenSim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, I don't mind sharing a little info.. but remember
we're still in planning stages and getting the feature list together. Also I
personally don't have a problem having this project open during development. So
I'll let Adam and the DeepThink team decide on that... I'll host any files if
needed or we can use opensim's gforge. All, I'm doing is sponsoring this project..
because I know how much the community would like groups and other features up
and running. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Basically we're working on getting economy and groups
running.. and hopefully if Diva accepts our offer, we can get groups working
across the Hypergrid... (still working on that). DeepThink already has a list
of features listed for how we can safely and securely implement groups and
economy.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Again, I'm not the most tech savvy person.. I'm just
sponsoring this.. so Adam can share as much info as he likes.. once we come to
a conclusion on what the exact features will be ... but so far it seems he
understands what we're looking for in the project.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Frisby, Adam <<a href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au"><a href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au">adam@deepthink.com.au</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I think the
consensus with Mike is to develop it on the forge, but I'll let him speak for
me here since he's sponsoring it and I don't want to say anything that
may be wrong.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Adam</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dahlia Trimble<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 February 2009 12:48 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] Groups in OpenSim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-AU">Agreed... something like
groups is too complex to be submitted all at once, unless it's a module in
forge. I've been working on group chat infrastructure and this could cause
conflict unless it's developed in an open manner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU">On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Justin Clark-Casey <<a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com">jjustincc@googlemail.com</a></a>>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-AU">Frisby, Adam wrote:<br>
> Yep, Mike here has graciously offered to have us develop it for the public
domain. With a little luck we should be starting this one soon, along with some
other features he's asked for (I won't ruin any suprises, but they are much-asked
for).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU">I don't like to see surprises spoilt either but it would be
nice to know what they are sooner rather than later, so that<br>
nobody wastes time with duplicate development.<br>
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Will the development happen in the open commit by commit?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> Adam<br>
><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a></a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-" target="_blank">opensim-dev-</a><br>
>> <a href="mailto:bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:bounces@lists.berlios.de">bounces@lists.berlios.de</a></a>]
On Behalf Of Mike Huntington<br>
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 9:11 AM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a></a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Groups in OpenSim<br>
>><br>
>> I'm currently in talks with DeepThink to have this developed for my<br>
>> grid. The work will be donated back to the opensim community once<br>
>> finished. Hopefully work on this will begin later this month.<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Feb 12, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Ruud Lathrop <<a href="mailto:ruud.lathrop@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:ruud.lathrop@gmail.com">ruud.lathrop@gmail.com</a></a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Does anybody know if somebody is working on features to implement<br>
>>> Groups? I see a GroupsModule in Core.Avatar. But that doesn't hold<br>
>>> much implementation.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If nobody is building that, how can I start working on something<br>
>>> like that?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ruud<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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