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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>As to the SL compatibility, at this point in
development running back to SL to test is a handy tool. That also is a reason to
get flow control statements completed.<BR>Our next meeting we will see what we
can concoct as a suggestion besides whining.</FONT></DIV>
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<P>Bri<BR><FONT size=1>(<EM>The sailboat is not a vehicle</EM>)</FONT></P></DIV>
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<A title=cfk@pacbell.net href="mailto:cfk@pacbell.net">Charles Krinke</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Opensim-dev] 27 LSL
functions left</DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Bri:<BR><BR>Can you offer some suggestions as to what you might
propose as we move forward? If I get your drift, you are addressing what many
call "regression", and that is important also. One of the thoughts I had on
that subject was a series of sims with scripts running 24/7 demonstrating the
various functions that folks could log in and see they were working after each
update. At least that is what we have been doing on the plazas for some time.
<BR><BR>Perhaps you have some additional insight that could let us close the
loop?<BR><BR>Charles<BR><BR>p.s. I know a sailboat is not a vehicle and making
sure the force, mass, torque functions keep working is also
important.<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Brianna
<wwwench@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:00:36
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Opensim-dev]
27 LSL functions left<BR></FONT><BR>
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<P>On completed functions, what appears to be constantly ignored are other
area changes or errors that will break what was a working function. This
consumes a great deal of time thinking of new methods for an equivalent and to
me defeats the purpose of a function. The number of functions in that category
is not trivial. A few of us have considered creating a script to test all as a
harbinger.</P>
<P>Bri<BR><FONT size=1>(<EM>The sailboat is not a
vehicle</EM>)</FONT></P></SPAN></DIV>
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<A title=jrn2005@cs.st-andrews.ac.uk
href="mailto:jrn2005@cs.st-andrews.ac.uk" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:jrn2005@cs.st-andrews.ac.uk">J Ross Nicoll</A> </DIV>
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<A title=opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</A>
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Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:51 AM</DIV>
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Re: [Opensim-dev] 27 LSL functions left</DIV>
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<DIV>Absolutely agreed on the compatibility. There will be implementation
quirks worth matching, but I think in most cases code can be made to work on
both OS and SL easily enough, and will be more reliable for the thought put
into it.</DIV>
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<DIV>If anyone has BSD licensed (because I'm not getting into reading code
that might cause trouble later) code which uses entirely implemented
functions, but doesn't work in only one of OS/SL, feel free to e-mail it to
me with instructions and I'll fix it, give a good reason why it
can't/shouldn't be fixed, or take that back...</DIV><BR>
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<DIV>On 17 Jan 2009, at 02:41, Charles Krinke wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">The vehicle functions are stubs and could use a
little attention. That is, llSetVehicleType, llSetVehicledoubleParam,
llSetVehicleFloatParam, llSetVehicleVectorParam,
llSetVehicleRotationParam, llSetVehicleFlags &
llRemoveVehicleFlags.<BR><BR>I dont think it is that crucial to have
complete secondlife compatibility at this point. I rather think it is more
important to get enough functionality so that folks can use scripts at
all.<BR><BR>We can have all those wonderful discussions about
compatibility as soon as we have all the functions implemented. And I
expect that discussion and the resulting patches to go on for some
time.<BR><BR>Charles<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>"Frisby, Adam" <<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au">adam@deepthink.com.au</A>><BR><B><SPAN
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>"<A
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ymailto="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</A>"
<<A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
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ymailto="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Friday, January 16, 2009 6:31:51
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Opensim-dev] 27 LSL
functions left<BR></FONT><BR>
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congratulations to everyone who has contributed, I had no idea it was this
close. Do we have a list of functions which only have a partial
implementation and need more work?</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma,sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
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ymailto="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</A><SPAN
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
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Krinke<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
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PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[Opensim-dev] 27 LSL functions
left</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial,sans-serif">There are 27 LSL functions with no
implementation left, and they are:<BR><BR>llRotTarget, llRotTargetRemove,
llLoopSoundMaster, llLoopSoundSlave, llPlaySoundSlave, llLookAt,
llStopLookAt, llCollisionFilter, llAttachToAvatar, llDetachFromAvatar,
llRotLookAt, llPointAt, llStopPointAt, llGodLikeRezObject, llPassTouches,
llSetDamage, llTextBox, llPassCollisions, llGetCenterOfMass,
llEdgeOfWorld, llSetSoundQueueing, llTriggerSoundLimited, llGroundRepel,
llRemoteDataSetRegion & llSetInventoryPermMask.<BR><BR>We started with
Tedd's vision a bit over a year ago and 300 functions are implemented,
that is a great job to all who contributed.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><BR>The end is in sight, and
patches to partially or completely implement one or more of these
functions would be greatly appreciated by
all.<BR><BR>Charles</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>Opensim-dev
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