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2. Re: service monitoring for opensim (Sean Dague)<br> 3. Re: service monitoring for opensim (Sean Dague)<br> 4. Re: service monitoring for opensim (Paul Fishwick)<br> 5. Re: service monitoring for opensim (Lc)<br> 6. Re: service monitoring for opensim (Sean Dague)<br>
7. Re: service monitoring for opensim (Justin Clark-Casey)<br> 8. RFC: Refactoring Scene.cs so that modules directly invoke<br> services from CommsManager (Justin Clark-Casey)<br> 9. Re: service monitoring for opensim (Brianna)<br>
<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:22:43 -0500<br>From: Paul Fishwick <<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] service monitoring for opensim<br>To: <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:494A4EA3.6050200@cise.ufl.edu">494A4EA3.6050200@cise.ufl.edu</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br><br>This sounds good - btw, is this instrumented now? Where are the php or<br>html files for simstatus, get_grid_info, etc? As a suggestion, the<br>monitoring<br>
might use a GUI control or does it already?<br>-p<br><br>Sean Dague wrote:<br>> I've been poking around recently on ways to do service monitoring of<br>> OpenSim via reasonably stately requests. The idea here is to make some<br>
> standard recipes for how one could use things like nagios, or other<br>> standard management frameworks to keep track of opensim, and let you<br>> know when things have gone wrong.<br>><br>> For monitoring the simulator there is currently:<br>
><br>> http://server:port/simstatus/<br>><br>> Which returns "OK" or doesn't. It's not a very robust check, but it's<br>> workable enough. :) It at least tells you if the sim is deadlocked or not.<br>
><br>> On the grid services side I was looking for lowload function calls,<br>> preferably REST, that can be used to the same avail.<br>><br>> For the grid server:<br>><br>> http://host:gridport/sims/UUID-of-known-sim<br>
><br>> works pretty well. It's a single db lookup, and returns a small amount<br>> of data.<br>><br>> For the user server:<br>><br>> http://host:userport/get_grid_info<br>><br>> fits the bill.<br>
><br>> For the asset server:<br>><br>> http://host:assetport/assets/ec4b9f0b-d008-45c6-96a4-01dd947ac621<br>><br>> works well. For those wondering, that's returning the texture on the<br>> moon, which is a hard coded uuid in the client, so something every grid<br>
> should have.<br>><br>> Inventory and Messaging servers aren't quite as simple, as there isn't a<br>> quick and easy REST call on either. While it would be possible to<br>> create a faked xml-rpc set of requests, I'm hoping to avoid that if<br>
> possible.<br>><br>> Question:<br>><br>> What do people think of adding some easy REST interfaces to the<br>> Messaging and Inventory services that are like the /simstatus/ call?<br>> Are there other alternatives we should be using here? Does anyone else<br>
> have other thoughts on sane ways to service monitor these environments?<br>><br>> -Sean<br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>
> Opensim-dev mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><br>
><br><br><br>--<br>Paul Fishwick, PhD<br>Professor and Director, Digital Arts and Sciences Programs<br>University of Florida<br>Computer & Information Science and Eng. Dept.<br>Bldg. CSE, Room 301<br>P.O. Box 116120<br>
Gainesville, FL 32611<br>Email: <a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a><br>Phone: (352) 392-1414<br>Fax: (352) 392-1220<br>Web: <a href="http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick" target="_blank">http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick</a><br>
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<br>Nebadon Izumi wrote:<br>> I don't have anything to offer on the how to's but i thought it might be<br>> good if simstatus not only showed an OK status but also return the simulator<br>> uptime, this might help us gather stats on how stable things really are.<br>
<br>That's a good point. What would people think about putting the<br>statistics output that shows up on the console from time to time as well?<br><br> -Sean<br><br>--<br>Sean Dague / Neas Bade<br><a href="mailto:sdague@gmail.com">sdague@gmail.com</a><br>
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<br>Paul Fishwick wrote:<br>> This sounds good - btw, is this instrumented now? Where are the php or<br>> html files for simstatus, get_grid_info, etc? As a suggestion, the<br>> monitoring<br>> might use a GUI control or does it already?<br>
<br>The urls I pointed to are live and working now. The http content is<br>returned directly from the sim code.<br><br> -Sean<br><br>--<br>Sean Dague / Neas Bade<br><a href="mailto:sdague@gmail.com">sdague@gmail.com</a><br>
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To: <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:494A5392.70006@cise.ufl.edu">494A5392.70006@cise.ufl.edu</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>
<br>maybe I don't have the necessary revision. I have opensim.exe running now<br>(r7703) and when I do: <a href="http://myip:9000/simstatus" target="_blank">http://myIP:9000/simstatus</a>, I get a bad<br>link page. can you let me know where I am going wrong? -p<br>
<br><br>Sean Dague wrote:<br>> Paul Fishwick wrote:<br>><br>>> This sounds good - btw, is this instrumented now? Where are the php or<br>>> html files for simstatus, get_grid_info, etc? As a suggestion, the<br>
>> monitoring<br>>> might use a GUI control or does it already?<br>>><br>><br>> The urls I pointed to are live and working now. The http content is<br>> returned directly from the sim code.<br>
><br>> -Sean<br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Opensim-dev mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><br>
><br><br><br>--<br>Paul Fishwick, PhD<br>Professor and Director, Digital Arts and Sciences Programs<br>University of Florida<br>Computer & Information Science and Eng. Dept.<br>Bldg. CSE, Room 301<br>P.O. Box 116120<br>
Gainesville, FL 32611<br>Email: <a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a><br>Phone: (352) 392-1414<br>Fax: (352) 392-1220<br>Web: <a href="http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick" target="_blank">http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick</a><br>
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To: <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:af5e8e660812180546p1752a95es7e913497475909b@mail.gmail.com">af5e8e660812180546p1752a95es7e913497475909b@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br> <a href="http://myip:9000/simstatus" target="_blank">http://myIP:9000/simstatus</a> <<a href="http://myip:9000/simstatus" target="_blank">http://myip:9000/simstatus</a>>/<br>
<br>Sm<br><br><br>On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Paul Fishwick <<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a>>wrote:<br><br>> maybe I don't have the necessary revision. I have opensim.exe running now<br>
> (r7703) and when I do: <a href="http://myip:9000/simstatus" target="_blank">http://myIP:9000/simstatus</a>, I get a bad<br>> link page. can you let me know where I am going wrong? -p<br>><br>><br>> Sean Dague wrote:<br>
> > Paul Fishwick wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> This sounds good - btw, is this instrumented now? Where are the php or<br>> >> html files for simstatus, get_grid_info, etc? As a suggestion, the<br>
> >> monitoring<br>> >> might use a GUI control or does it already?<br>> >><br>> ><br>> > The urls I pointed to are live and working now. The http content is<br>> > returned directly from the sim code.<br>
> ><br>> > -Sean<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Opensim-dev mailing list<br>> > <a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>> > <a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><br>
> ><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Paul Fishwick, PhD<br>> Professor and Director, Digital Arts and Sciences Programs<br>> University of Florida<br>> Computer & Information Science and Eng. Dept.<br>
> Bldg. CSE, Room 301<br>> P.O. Box 116120<br>> Gainesville, FL 32611<br>> Email: <a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a><br>> Phone: (352) 392-1414<br>> Fax: (352) 392-1220<br>> Web: <a href="http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick" target="_blank">http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick</a><<a href="http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick" target="_blank">http://www.cise.ufl.edu/%7Efishwick</a>><br>
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<br>Paul Fishwick wrote:<br>> maybe I don't have the necessary revision. I have opensim.exe running now<br>> (r7703) and when I do: <a href="http://myip:9000/simstatus" target="_blank">http://myIP:9000/simstatus</a>, I get a bad<br>
> link page. can you let me know where I am going wrong? -p<br><br>You need the final slash - <a href="http://myip:9000/simstatus/" target="_blank">http://myIP:9000/simstatus/</a> it's important<br><br> -Sean<br>
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<br>Sean Dague wrote:<br>> Nebadon Izumi wrote:<br>>> I don't have anything to offer on the how to's but i thought it might be<br>>> good if simstatus not only showed an OK status but also return the simulator<br>
>> uptime, this might help us gather stats on how stable things really are.<br>><br>> That's a good point. What would people think about putting the<br>> statistics output that shows up on the console from time to time as well?<br>
<br>+1. I've always intended to do this but it got pushed way down my list of things to do. That stuff should also be<br>available on a per region basis.<br><br>+1 on the other inventory and message server REST monitoring suggestions as well.<br>
<br>--<br>justincc<br>Justin Clark-Casey<br><a href="http://justincc.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://justincc.wordpress.com</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:52:10 +0000<br>
From: Justin Clark-Casey <<a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com">jjustincc@googlemail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Refactoring Scene.cs so that modules<br> directly invoke services from CommsManager<br>
To: <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:494A7FBA.6070801@googlemail.com">494A7FBA.6070801@googlemail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>
<br>In Scene.cs there are quite a few wrapper methods that appears to exist primarily to relay calls from modules to other<br>services. For instance, Scene.AddXmlRPCHandler() just recalls AddXmlRPCHandler() on the BaseHttpServer. Some modules<br>
make use of this method while others use Scene.CommsManager.HttpServer.AddXmlRPCHandler()<br><br>I would like to refactor code such that services available through CommsManager are called directly rather than through<br>Scene wrappers. Although this goes against the Law of Demeter (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Demeter" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Demeter</a>) I think<br>
that the advantage in reducing the large number of disparate methods on the Scene is worth it. The alternative is that<br>the number of Scene wrapper methods continues to grow indefinitely as new service methods are introduced.<br>
<br>Comments?<br><br>--<br>justincc<br>Justin Clark-Casey<br><a href="http://justincc.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://justincc.wordpress.com</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:10:17 -0800<br>
From: "Brianna" <<a href="mailto:wwwench@gmail.com">wwwench@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] service monitoring for opensim<br>To: <<a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a>><br>
Message-ID: <282095E384794EB5ACB2B7768481154B@BoscoPC><br>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";<br> reply-type=original<br><br>I use an unrefined method, besides users yelling at me.<br>
<br>With the existing [ llHTTPRequest(url ,[HTTP_METHOD,"GET"],""); ] I can push<br>a lot of info up to my stable PHP world on the server with no sim loading.<br>Of course once there I can use MySql, send email, honk horns or write flat<br>
files to my hearts content, That keeps the talented dev team on more<br>important issues.<br>I also use the same technique for a visitor log from prim collision, again<br>avoiding scripting scanners.<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Paul Fishwick" <<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 5:22 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] service monitoring for opensim<br><br><br>> This sounds good - btw, is this instrumented now? Where are the php or<br>> html files for simstatus, get_grid_info, etc? As a suggestion, the<br>
> monitoring<br>> might use a GUI control or does it already?<br>> -p<br>><br>> Sean Dague wrote:<br>>> I've been poking around recently on ways to do service monitoring of<br>>> OpenSim via reasonably stately requests. The idea here is to make some<br>
>> standard recipes for how one could use things like nagios, or other<br>>> standard management frameworks to keep track of opensim, and let you<br>>> know when things have gone wrong.<br>>><br>>> For monitoring the simulator there is currently:<br>
>><br>>> http://server:port/simstatus/<br>>><br>>> Which returns "OK" or doesn't. It's not a very robust check, but it's<br>>> workable enough. :) It at least tells you if the sim is deadlocked or<br>
>> not.<br>>><br>>> On the grid services side I was looking for lowload function calls,<br>>> preferably REST, that can be used to the same avail.<br>>><br>>> For the grid server:<br>>><br>
>> http://host:gridport/sims/UUID-of-known-sim<br>>><br>>> works pretty well. It's a single db lookup, and returns a small amount<br>>> of data.<br>>><br>>> For the user server:<br>
>><br>>> http://host:userport/get_grid_info<br>>><br>>> fits the bill.<br>>><br>>> For the asset server:<br>>><br>>> http://host:assetport/assets/ec4b9f0b-d008-45c6-96a4-01dd947ac621<br>
>><br>>> works well. For those wondering, that's returning the texture on the<br>>> moon, which is a hard coded uuid in the client, so something every grid<br>>> should have.<br>>><br>>> Inventory and Messaging servers aren't quite as simple, as there isn't a<br>
>> quick and easy REST call on either. While it would be possible to<br>>> create a faked xml-rpc set of requests, I'm hoping to avoid that if<br>>> possible.<br>>><br>>> Question:<br>>><br>
>> What do people think of adding some easy REST interfaces to the<br>>> Messaging and Inventory services that are like the /simstatus/ call?<br>>> Are there other alternatives we should be using here? Does anyone else<br>
>> have other thoughts on sane ways to service monitor these environments?<br>>><br>>> -Sean<br>>><br>>><br>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Opensim-dev mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>>> <a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><br>
>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Paul Fishwick, PhD<br>> Professor and Director, Digital Arts and Sciences Programs<br>> University of Florida<br>> Computer & Information Science and Eng. Dept.<br>
> Bldg. CSE, Room 301<br>> P.O. Box 116120<br>> Gainesville, FL 32611<br>> Email: <a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a><br>> Phone: (352) 392-1414<br>> Fax: (352) 392-1220<br>> Web: <a href="http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick" target="_blank">http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick</a><br>
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