sure the team is more than capable, but I'm not convinced .NET and Mono with C# will ever be able to perform at a level suitable enough for this kind of performance, Its not a matter of talent, but more a matter of limitations of the language we are using to program the simulator, I am not claiming 100% we wont be able to achieve it, the language is very young and there could be enhancments to .net and mono in the future that will allow for much higher performing apps.<br>
<br>Nebadon<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/12/13 Kyle G <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:create@reactiongrid.com">create@reactiongrid.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Even when compared to
mature, production products we offer to host usually users select OpenSim over
all others.<span> </span>You just have to
properly set expectations and then guide new users through the many limits. I
personally do feel OpenSim will exceed 100 avatars as the development team is
amazingly talented and dedicated. But I am only going by our almost full year
of testing and over a dozen grid owners we service.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Keep us posted <span>Americo</span>!</span></p><div class="Ih2E3d">
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kyle G</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="http://www.reactiongrid.com" target="_blank">www.reactiongrid.com</a> </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nebadon Izumi<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:americo@dmu.com" target="_blank">americo@dmu.com</a>; <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] Auditorium for 500</div></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Americo,</p><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
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No your testing is spot on, if not exceeding what we normally see OpenSim
Capable of being able to do, OpenSIM will likely never be capable of hosting 500
visitors in 1 simulator, Secondlifes Limit is somewhere around 100 and even
with 100 it runs extremly bad. OpenSims Maximum acceptible user load on
even the most beefy hardware is somewhere between 20-30 visitors on a good day,
generally 10 visitors or even less will bring a sim crashing to its knees
within a matter of hours. and even a Sim sitting idle generally at this
point doesnt last more than about 24 hours before becoming completely unstable
for use. You need to remember this project is alpha level, and very very
very buggy software at this stage. But that said, 500 avatars in one
simulator is a lofty goal that probably can not be achieved with OpenSIM,
unfortunatly the programming language we have chosen to program opensim in will
probably prevent us from ever even being able to have 100 avatars in 1
simulator, let alone 500. Hope this helps, just be aware that OpenSIM is
just slightly more than 50% complete in its source code. There is still a
very long road ahead before we get anywhere near the end, or even begin beta
testing with this software, IT IS NOT A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT! Good luck
with your testing.<br>
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Nebadon</div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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<p>On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Americo Damasceno <<a href="mailto:adamascj@hotmail.com" target="_blank">adamascj@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p>Thanks, Kyle.<br>
<br>
I did some tests, having a "basic" (?) PC (DELL Latitude D 600
w/Centrino 2 GHz 512 Mb), OpenSim StandAlone, 1 region, Windows and
"my number" is: NO MORE THAN 20 visitors/avatares to have a good
performance.<br>
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Is it a reasonable number or am I doing something wrong?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Americo<br>
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