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That sounds quite like what the vision of Tribal Net would look like if it was based on the hypergrid. The mouth waters.<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR>Stefan Andersson<BR>Tribal Media AB<BR> <BR>Join the 3d web revolution : <A href="http://tribalnet.se/">http://tribalnet.se/</A><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:51:47 -0800<BR>> From: pixelcat@cybercosis.com<BR>> To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<BR>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] grid operation and the idea of HOME<BR>> <BR>> What is exciting about Hypergrid to me, is that it brings us one step <BR>> closer to what I would like to see for a VW environment...<BR>> <BR>> Namely that "Home" is a region on a user's own box that runs effectively <BR>> stand-alone and is coupled to the user's client. The user can play and <BR>> build and whatnot "at home" whether they are online or offline, and <BR>> "Logging in" brings their "home" region into the hypergrid so that they <BR>> can invite others to their home or leave their home and visit others.<BR>> <BR>> "Logging off" would decouple their home region from the hypergrid once <BR>> again, returning them to effectively offline status.<BR>> <BR>> -- Pixelcat<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Kyle "G" wrote:<BR>> > I have some ideas for embedded, disconnected apps, mobile in nature which<BR>> > require a small embeddable DB and minimal footprint from OpenSim. For this<BR>> > reason we feel standalone mode is important and needed but for the majority<BR>> > of what we plan in 2009 HyperGrid is a revolution we are really happy to see<BR>> > as we would love to be part of a bigger community of similar OpenSim grids.<BR>> > <BR>> > Kyle G<BR>> > www.reactiongrid.com <BR>> > <BR>> > From: opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de<BR>> > [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Michael Wright<BR>> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:37 AM<BR>> > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] grid operation<BR>> > <BR>> > -1, I think standalone mode is a important feature, and will become more<BR>> > important in the future<BR>> ><BR>> > I do think though, that we can do a lot more to cut down the code paths and<BR>> > make the grid services share code and interfaces better with standalone mode<BR>> ><BR>> > Ryan McDougall <sempuki1@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> > belated +1<BR>> ><BR>> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Hurliman, John wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> >> It seems to me that standalone mode could easily be replaced with a small<BR>> >> <BR>> > C# app that launches all of the grid services with the proper configuration.<BR>> > This would reduce a lot of code paths.<BR>> > <BR>> >> John<BR>> >><BR>> >> <BR>> >>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> >>> From: opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-<BR>> >>> bounces@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Stefan Andersson<BR>> >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:40 AM<BR>> >>> To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de; opensim-users@lists.berlios.de<BR>> >>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] grid operation<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Kyle,<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> I'm going to claim utter and absolute selfishness here and state that<BR>> >>>> I cannot see any situation under which I would have only 1 location<BR>> >>>> open in the 3D web.<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>> But others can and do - especially the out-of-the-box noob or the app<BR>> >>> dev just wanting to throw up a region to test a module.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> For the purpose of "easily getting things set up", standalone is all<BR>> >>>> but useless in its initial state. It's certainly easier to get set<BR>> >>>> up, but it's also much more limited.<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>> It has one glorious use : letting people get an instant taste of<BR>> >>> OpenSim. That's probably what got us this far this fast.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> Grid mode is perhaps a bit more difficult to set up -- but the<BR>> >>>> default in the configuration file is for the Null storage plugin to<BR>> >>>> be used under standalone mode. This makes things... difficult... when<BR>> >>>> trying to explain how to get modifications to the environment saved.<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>> For region persistence, it's SQLite, not Null?<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> Because<BR>> >>>> first, you have to explain how to configure the storage for the other<BR>> >>>> modules (again, for standalone).<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>> I must admit I'm a bit confused as of what resources you mean need<BR>> >>> configuration and extra set-up. Can you be more specific?<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> Also, I've been following the posts on the topic of the HyperGrid. I<BR>> >>>> need more information on this: will it work for any of the minigrids<BR>> >>>> to be in standalone mode when they try to connect with the HG? My gut<BR>> >>>> feeling says no... and my reason for promoting grid over standalone<BR>> >>>> is simply this: the HyperGrid is much closer to what the web is --<BR>> >>>> multiple administrative domains that all work together to pass<BR>> >>>> traffic between them. I don't view HG as being the final evolution,<BR>> >>>> but I do view it as being a very good start.<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>> Definitively - HG is a major step along the very lines we've been<BR>> >>> envisioning since the very beginning - when we first started using the<BR>> >>> phrase "3D Web". Let's not forget the "friendly teleports" region<BR>> >>> handle hacks of old. This is all building one step at a time, towards<BR>> >>> a golden future. The project has come a long way in only two years.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> And I'm pretty confident that there's even more magical stuff brewing<BR>> >>> on private hard drives and in corporate offices. :D<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> (And thank you, as always, for your time. :))<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>> And thank you for yours, Kyle!<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> /Stefan<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> <BR>> >> _______________________________________________<BR>> >> Opensim-dev mailing list<BR>> >> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<BR>> >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev<BR>> >><BR>> >> <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Opensim-dev mailing list<BR>> > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<BR>> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev<BR>> > <BR>> > No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com<BR>> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1842 - Release Date: 12/10/2008<BR>> > 6:53 PM<BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Opensim-dev mailing list<BR>> > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<BR>> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev<BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Opensim-dev mailing list<BR>> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<BR>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev<BR></body>
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