but wait, are they Trolls ? We all know Trolls come Finland ;) <br><br>/me hides to avoid the trouts shlapping <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s&feature=related</a><br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Frisby, Adam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au">adam@deepthink.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU">
<div>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Usually easy to spot – most of them have .fi emails.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Adam</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;">
<div>
<div style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;">
<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lc<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 10 December 2008 3:30 AM<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
</div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] An Open Letter to Open Source and OpenSim
Communities</span></p>
</div>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<p> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Thanks Ryan for that short
explanation.<br>
It will be great if you can present "Rex Team" members too.<br>
It will avoid any false assumed emails coming from ReX that lead to
nowhere except flameware and heathfull threads like we saw recently.<br>
<br>
We really need to put a "Don't feed the trolls" sign ;)<br>
<br>
Thanks Ryan <br>
<br>
Sacha Magne / Lc <br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p>On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Ryan McDougall <<a href="mailto:sempuki1@gmail.com" target="_blank">sempuki1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p>Recently there has been much discussion in OpenSim, other
Open Source<br>
communities, and within realXtend itself. As a result of changes<br>
within realXtend, there is some new direction and focus. I would like<br>
to clear up any misconceptions and help set the stage for future<br>
cooperation.<br>
<br>
The biggest change is that reX has asked added a technical architect,<br>
Ryan McDougall, to help shore up its long range planning, and improve<br>
community relations. The result has been an ongoing process of<br>
planning for 2009 that pre-prioritized community involvement, and a<br>
commitment to strategic goals, including a from-scratch BSD-derived<br>
viewer.<br>
<br>
This means that our interactions with you will now be different. It<br>
will be open and clear and everything you expect from a member of the<br>
community in good standing.<br>
<br>
Let me also explain a bit more about realXtend past history and future
strategy.<br>
<br>
When RealXtend first began, it was with an idea about merging what was<br>
real and what was virtual, in order to create tools and experiences<br>
that affected peoples lives positively. Open Source was a core<br>
principle in the project, because RealXtend was intended to become a<br>
defacto standard for the coming revolution in how we interact with<br>
world -- both real and electronic.<br>
<br>
Many technology-bases were evaluated, and it was felt that a<br>
combination of OpenSim and the Second Life(tm) viewer were the best in<br>
class. Because there was much to learn and discover, the first couple<br>
prototypes were made away from the respective communities. When<br>
RealXtend decided on continuing evaluation of OpenSim and Second Life,<br>
attempts were made to join both communities. Some of those attempts<br>
were awkward or rebuffed, and without the experience of how to be a<br>
member of an open community in good standing, it was decided it would<br>
be more efficient to continue prototyping separately.<br>
<br>
Now RealXtend finds itself at a cross-roads. Our prototypes have been<br>
wildly successful in many ways -- except the ways that matter to<br>
paying end-users. We find that it is becoming more and more difficult<br>
as time goes on to maintain forked software and keep pace with<br>
duplicated efforts in OpenSim. To remedy this fork, we have engaged<br>
Deepthink to modify OpenSim to accept a port of RealXtend, and to make<br>
most of the port itself.<br>
<br>
The client side of the equation, however, remains more problematic.<br>
While it is Open Source in name, it is not in practise, and our<br>
changes will never make it back into the upstream repository. In order<br>
to disengage ourselves from the wake of the private entity who<br>
controls the repository, and make the sort of important, innovative<br>
changes that we think are necessary, we have concluded that we must<br>
have a truly open sourced client viewer that we have some ability to<br>
participate in.<br>
<br>
We do not make this decision lightly, knowing how much work and money<br>
that doing so represents. We take on this challenge because we know<br>
someone must, and with the hope that with the help of many community<br>
and corporate partners, we can together, make this a reality, and open<br>
a new chapter in our industry.<br>
<br>
We will begin this new process in January and continuing until<br>
February of 2009, with a feasibility study. That process will conclude<br>
with a proposed road-map as a result, what will be able to take us<br>
through 2009 and beyond. The process will begin internally with<br>
RealXtend, in order to solidify a unifying core set of principles, but<br>
very soon move outward to include a call for proposals and comments<br>
from all of you. With a clear road-map and a successful consultation<br>
process, we are confident that we will birth an cross platform Open<br>
Source community that will be at the forefront of the 3D Virtual World<br>
revolution.<br>
<br>
We invite you to give your feedback by visiting the RealXtend website,<br>
trying out our software out, signing up for our mailing lists, or<br>
joining us on IRC.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">Ryan McDougall<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Opensim-dev mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a></span></p>
</div>
<p> </p>
</div></div></div>
</div>
</div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
Opensim-dev mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>