<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Well, <div>About ODE on Linux x86/64.</div><div><br></div><div>Just installed/compiled the latest SVN ( 7538 ) on my Linux Box ( Ubuntu 8.0.4 2.6.27.6 kernel / Xeon 8GB Ram ).</div><div><br></div><div>Everything run fine, no more crash with ODE ( The provided one ), no more need to manualy compile libopenjpeg, ... </div><div><br></div><div>BUT : I'm still experiencing a little problem inworld. My avatar position from the ground / prims isn't good.</div><div>I still need to adjust the following parameter in OpenSim.ini :<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 14px; "></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Consolas" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 14px; ">; av_capsule_radius = 0.37<span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Consolas; font-size: 14px; ">av_capsule_radius = 0.87</span></div><div><br></div><div>Could you confirm these changes ?</div><div><br></div><div>In the past, on Linux x86/32, this parameter was fine. But I guess that now, libode is built with the "opcode" option instead than "gimpact".</div><div><br></div><div>What kind of impact could this parameter have ?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Ursula.</div><div><br><div><div>Le 20 nov. 08 à 14:49, Kyle G a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">My systems that are crashing ODE:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br>Intel Xeon Kentsfield 64 Bit 4 Gig RAM running 20 regions per machine<br>Windows Server 2008<br>SQL Server 2008 Express w/Advanced Services<br>Version 7364<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">32 bit system essentially the same configuration do not ever crash ODE.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Kyle G<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="http://www.reactiongrid.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.reactiongrid.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">-----Original Message-----<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>] On Behalf Of Ursula MATOVA<br>Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:12 AM<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] ODE on Linux x86/64</div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">Hi Jeroen,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">1/ I didn't experienced any slowdown at the moment, but the server is<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">really too powerfull to notice that ...<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">( Xeon 2.66GHz Quad Core, 8GB Ram, 25 Regions in Grid mode, MySQL<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">storage, OpenSim SVN 7311 )<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">BUT : Note i'm using the very latest Mono ( not 1.9.1 ).<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">I'll try to do some tests this week end on the core2 Duo with Ubuntu<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">64bits and let you know the results.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">2/ Adam, do you mean that only BulletX should be used un x86/64bits ?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">Why not ODE ? It's a very nice engine, working perfectly for common use ...<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">Regards,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">Ursula.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">Jeroen van Veen a écrit :<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">> Do you experience slowdowns inworld as well on x64? I had exactly the<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">> same issues, but experienced also slowdowns, and problems with failing<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">> collision detection.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">> Jeroen<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">> 2008/11/19 Ursula MATOVA <<a href="mailto:ursula.matova@klintcentral.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ursula.matova@klintcentral.net</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">> <<a href="mailto:ursula.matova@klintcentral.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:ursula.matova@klintcentral.net</a>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Ok, no problem then :)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>But : I had to adjust the following parameter in OpenSim.ini to adjust<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>my avatar position on the ground :<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>;girth of the avatar.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Adds radius to the height also<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>; av_capsule_radius = 0.37<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>av_capsule_radius = 0.87<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Is it "normal" ?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Because these parameters are really fine with the delivered ode lib in<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>32bits Linux.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Regards, Ursula.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Teravus Ovares a écrit :<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> the recommended tri-mesh collider is opcode.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>not gimpact.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>gimpact<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> is no longer supported<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> Best Regards<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> Teravus<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> On 11/18/08, Frisby, Adam <<a href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">adam@deepthink.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><<a href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au</a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>> I think maybe x64 compatibility checking might be a good goal<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>for this current 0.6 version number. There's nothing in OpenSim<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>which prevents us from being properly x64 supported - only some of<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>our dependencies. I have personally a desire to get as much<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>'managed' code as possible to prevent a large number of these<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>issues. If we can get the default storage and physics engines<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>fully managed, that might go a long way to helping - although the<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>only decent managed physics engine is BulletX.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>> Adam<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>> [<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:opensim-dev-</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:opensim-dev-</a>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bounces@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bounces@lists.berlios.de</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>>] On<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Behalf Of Ursula MATOVA<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 3:45 PM<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><<a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Subject: [Opensim-dev] ODE on Linux x86/64<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Hi all,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> I'm now running OpenSim on a Xeon based server. But I'd like to<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> experience 64bits OS.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> So, I have installed Ubuntu 8.0.4/64bits as usual, compiled<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Mono from<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> the latest sources and then try to run OpenSim ( was SVN.7311<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>during<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> my tests ).<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> First, i had problems with "libjpeg" libraries. That was<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>solved easily<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> by following instructions found on the wiki.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> The last problem was with ODE ( libode.so ). I have tried to<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>recompile<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> it from sources, but if I use the "gimpact" option, during the<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>first<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> agent connexion, I got a SegFault.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> I have found on internet that I could compile ODE with the<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>"opcode"<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> option. Then I have tried this solution and I'm now able to<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>connect to<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> my OpenSim server.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> But one strange thing is that I need to adjust some avatar<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>settings in<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> OpenSim.ini, because my avatar wasn't properly positioned on the<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> ground.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> It's ok, but seems that these parameters impact avatar<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>collision with<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> objects.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> My question is :<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Do you plan to update & provide some new release of "ode" with the<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> "gimpact" option for x86-64 in the future ?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Regards,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Ursula.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> PS: So sorry for my english, it's late in France and I'm a bit<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>tired :P<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>> Opensim-dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>> Opensim-dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>> <a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a> <<a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> Opensim-dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>> <a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a> <<a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; ">><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" style="color: blue; 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