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You need to check them out.<br>
<tt>svn checkout <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://forge.opensimulator.org/svn/hypergrid">http://forge.opensimulator.org/svn/hypergrid</a><br>
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</tt>Use username anonymous and no password.<br>
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James Stallings II wrote:
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type="cite">Hey Diva!<br>
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I cant seem to find any files on the GForge for hypergrid :(<br>
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Do I need to do the svn dance?<br>
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Cheers!<br>
James/Hiro<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Cristina
Videira Lopes <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lopes@ics.uci.edu">lopes@ics.uci.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On Oct 30, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Stefan Andersson wrote:<br>
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> I've been meaning to write a post for a very long time now. It's in<br>
> my draft folder. Just not getting it finished.<br>
><br>
> First Step:<br>
> Just wanted you all to consider what would happen if we, on<br>
> ExpectAvatar sent some aux info like 'home user server url', 'home<br>
> asset server url' and 'home inventory server url' to be attached to<br>
> the ScenePresence, and had all communications interactions use<br>
> those provided urls.<br>
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That's exactly what I was planning to do to get the avatar connected<br>
to its "home".<br>
I had to add an additional step of informing the remote region of a<br>
"user", before ExpectAvatar and even before IncomingAgent, because<br>
when the server is informed of an incoming agent, it asks the local<br>
user service for that user, which is not there. So I was planning to<br>
enhance that incoming-user notification message with all the info<br>
about the user.<br>
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> What I'm saying is, that the region could accept any avatar in the<br>
> form of an authenticated and authorized UUID only, so - "grid"<br>
> would become meaningless and "intergrid" becomes a moot issue - all<br>
> regions would always expect all clients to come from all different<br>
> user/asset/inventory servers. The authorization aspect of the<br>
> "grid" would then be a question of service trust, regions clustered<br>
> under one governing entity implementing its own trust schemes. One<br>
> basic trust scheme would probably be https.<br>
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Yes, trust is definitely the major issue here.<br>
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But grids are a little bit more than just trust domains; they are<br>
optimizations of shared resources. For example, universities that set<br>
up their VWs will very likely want to centralize their user base,<br>
asset base, etc. It's just more convenient to manage. A single<br>
simulator is too fine-grain of a unit for medium-sized organizations.<br>
I can also see "communities" gathering around grids. So the grid<br>
concept is a convenient technical and social optimization. But yes,<br>
it's an optimization, it's not fundamental here.<br>
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> Next Step:<br>
> Consider then, if you will, if the "home" configuration would<br>
> simply be a function of a login to your own "home" login server, or<br>
> simply as a function of a modified viewer, hence the viewer would<br>
> send preffered service url's on login.<br>
><br>
> Hey Presto, 3D Web for real. It's not that far away, even given the<br>
> current architecture.<br>
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If you look at what I did for implementing the hypergrid, you'll see<br>
that it's ridiculously simple. Everything was already there! That's<br>
why I was able to do it so quickly. What took me longer was to get my<br>
head around the meaning of the map, something that fascinates me.<br>
Going peer-to-peer is fine, but what's the fun in pulling up the map<br>
and seeing only your little world? -- that would be terribly lonely.<br>
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