[Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] OSCC21 Audience Feature        Suggestions

[Melanie]

The project was originally started by me, based on Unreal 4. My intent was, at that time, that my reading of the unreal license is that "games" based on UE4 are free up to a certain (high) number of copies being distributed, and the cost could be sidestepped by not distributing the viewer as binary but instead providing an easy way to build

from source. This way, most users would be independent developers and outside licensing. Commercial grids would have had to pay, but as they are commercial, would have the means to do so.



That left the science community out in the cold, so I suspect it is why diva wanted to move it to a different platform. Xenko was chosen since it had recently gone opensource and free (as in beer), and is C#.



My unreal version is developed to the point where it can actually display sims, including textures and mesh, but without windlight, using unreal's superior shaders. It has all the code needed to render a single region, multiple regions can be added by making them game levels. The Unreal version doesn't implement the LL protocol, it was always intended to break away from it. The Unreal effort is VR headset capable. I believe any viewer for the future will need that because FB will certainly leverage their ownership of Oculus for their "meta"verse. The last version was able to access assets off an opensim asset service, but used a simple XML representation of the scene tree in a file as input to render. That was meant to be retrieved through a new protocol that would supply the initial scene tree, then any updates since then, as a burst and lazily load the assets.



I don't know how far the Xenko effort went, that would have to be left to people picking it up.







---- On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 22:23:26 +0000 Mister Blue <misterblue at misterblue.com> wrote ----



For sure. There was a start at a new viewer but that effort petered out. If
anyone is interested, they could restart that project.

I have a different take on viewer-ness that includes a new protocol for
various reasons. But, while the viewer is essential, there is still a lot
of stuff needed by OpenSimulator like compatibility with all the newer
formats (avatars, mesh editors, ...) and communication systems. Even its
build system could use an update. Lots to do.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 1:30 PM Cinder Roxley <mailto:cinder at alchemyviewer.org>
wrote:

> Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the whole hullabaloo three years ago
> that OpenSim now has its own viewer project?
> https://github.com/opensim/opensim-viewer
>
> --
> Sent from Canary (https://canarymail.io)
>
> > On Monday, Feb 14, 2022 at 2:44 PM, Mister Blue <
> mailto:misterblue at misterblue.com (mailto:mailto:misterblue at misterblue.com)> wrote:
> > I seem to be one of many people who have forks and OpenSim side projects.
> > There is work being done out there and I would like to pull all these
> side
> > projects together and make a new and improved future OpenSimulator. The
> > list of requested features that started this email thread is a good
> > starting point.
> >
> > My personal project is creating a new protocol and viewer that initially
> > works with OpenSim. A new viewer is a first step toward breaking away
> from
> > the chains of SL compatibility.
> >
> > Anyone who would like to join in and code and/or kabitz over improving
> > OpenSimulator, mail me at mailto:misterblue at misterblue.com or start a new
> thread
> > in opensim-dev and we'll talk. A lot can be done in the opensim-dev
> mailing
> > list (I like this email list over IRC because it provides some history to
> > read back on) but in-world and real-time chatting is also good for
> sharing
> > ideas.
> >
> > Let's do something.
> >
> > -- mb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 2:32 PM Joe Greene <mailto:jgreene at greenemyst.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I think a lot of people responding are misunderstanding what Frans was
> > > posting. Frans was posting the results from a survey taken at the
> OSCC21
> > > (OpenSim Community Convention?). Not posing a queston to this users
> group.
> > > As for teh item 22 I suspect by 'Meta' they meant Favedbook's VR
> division
> > > renamed to a name stolen from another company by brute force. Whoc
> would in
> > > my questionable opinion to mean they want VR support for OpenSim to
> make it
> > > more like Metaverse as proposed by Facebook VR (I refuse to give them
> the
> > > satisfaction of calling tthme by the stolen TM). While I would be
> ecstatic
> > > to see VR support.. I believe Opensim already provides such data as is
> > > necessary and therefore the VR support would have to be client side
> more
> > > than server side.
> > >
> > > Sent via Android Phone
> > > Joe Greene
> > > GreeneMyst
> > > Aka mailto:volgclawtooth at greenemyst.com
> > >
> > > Feb 13, 2022 13:50:38 Luisillo Contepomi <mailto:luisillocontepomi at gmail.com
> >:
> > >
> > > > On 12/02/2022 0:23, Frans wrote:
> > > > > *What Feature would you like to see in OpenSimulator*
> > > >
> > > > 1.-Opensim Viewer
> > > > 2.-Voice system
> > > > 3.-Modules, search, bank, admin by web, integrated in code
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your efforts,
> > > > Luisillo
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