[Opensim-dev] Firestorm OpenSimulator support policy changes

[Cinder Roxley]

Now I understand the concern better. Thank you. I do remember with the
release of Viewer 2 from Linden Lab, that OpenSim regions were being
hammered pretty heavily with unsupported MOAP requests among other issues,
and many grids blocked Viewer 2 derivatives because they were causing
instability, so it makes sense.

It’s been a while since Alchemy has had a new release, but there should be
another one soon. Might be well worth it for Firestorm to rebase their
current OpenSim support on Alchemy’s if they are unable to tow the line on
their own. Just a thought.


On September 20, 2019 at 10:14:03 AM, Leal Duarte (ajlduarte at sapo.pt) wrote:

Hi,

    Yes but core team viewer project is a long run one, will not happen
any time soon, if ever.

    Today we only have viewers, like yours, singularity, firestorm,
etc, etc.

    OpenSim never had full SL protocol or features, (to be more correct
it has at most, part of what viewer usually known as TVPs have), and
never will.

    To make things short, the "big deal" here is just the impact that
"AS IS" official statement may have on currently running opensim code,
in fact even future code.

    Firestorm team or any other team, have the right to decide they own
terms, we have the right to prevent potentially having regions crashing
all over the place.

    As i said, i hope this is just a temporary glitch in the matrix, if
i may say so

Regards,

Ubit.




On 20-Sep-19 15:40, Cinder Roxley wrote:
> It was made clear at last OSCC (and for several years prior) that Second
> Life viewer compatibility was not a goal, and that core team would be
> developing its own viewer as a baseline to deviate from the Second Life
> protocol, which it hasn’t really been compliant with since 2010, so what’s
> the big deal?
>
>
> On September 20, 2019 at 9:22:51 AM, Leal Duarte (ajlduarte at sapo.pt)
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We have been informed that Firestorm team changed again their
> policy about OpenSimulator support.
>
> Reading their statements we can only understand that they changed
> from having a forgotten, basically dead fork, to just provide a AS IS
> viewer.
>
> They also inform us that AS IS will mean addiction of code just
> copied from Linden Labs viewer and removal of other code may include
> what they call old protocols.
>
> Firestorm team has the right to do whatever they decide, no
> question about that.
>
> Such "AS IS" Firestorm viewer, in the terms currently defined by
> them, CAN NOT be accepted as viewer for OpenSimulator/Opensim.
>
> We all hope this is just some misunderstanding/disorientation
> facing the real technical difficulties.
>
> But since we can't predict when or what a new release "for opensim,
> almost for opensim, or whatever" will be, and knowing that just new BoM
> code may cause issues on all version but current dev master...
>
> I must recommended all to NOT UPGRADE TO SUCH VERSIONS, and inform
> all your users to no do so, until this situation is clarified.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ubit, (Leal Duarte)
>
> ps: do not think i did not tried to talk with them, for example about
> BoM potential issues and possible fixes, wasted hours just being
> ignored.. but details..
>
>
>
>
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