[Opensim-dev] GForge gone ?

[Toni Alatalo]

I think they want the independence, using a self hosted solution. You
can not do that with GitHub. For having the issues, pull requests etc.
on your own server.

That is the reason for Blender at least. So that for example some day
if they'd prefer something else than GitHub, they would not be in
trouble by having all that data there. Or if GitHub went down or
something.

Blender uses a self-hosted http://phabricator.org/ -- an open source
github like web & command line tools thing, seems pretty cool
actually, there are equivalents of Pull Requests in those
interestingly named tools 'Differential', 'Maniphest' etc.

For realXtend things we've just used GitHub. Seems unlikely there'd be
problems with it as so much of the world has moved there .. including
even Microsoft substantially now (with .Net), and already earlier so
much all kinds of things, independent, corporate, even government
projects in some places iirc etc.

I do appreciate the Blender and Opensimulator independence spirit and
the good jobs done with self hosted things.

I do *not* want to advocate anything on this really and suppose it was
discussed enough when the decision was made. Anyhow figured to mention
that would probably have gone with GitHub myself -- then again I
wasn't even in the talks. The benefits are nice and I don't see danger
really. Anyone has the full history in the clones anyway (or at least
you can mirror so that get all branches etc to own server), and
perhaps they have APIs for the issues and such if you wanna keep
backups / own copies in case? If the very unlikely happens that
there'd be trouble, could then perhaps migrate to phabricator or
gitorious or something. Just to allow focus on software dev, not
server hosting. Then again many of the opensim folks are out there
exactly to host their servers to run the sims also etc. so that's just
me :)

~Toni

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Blake <techplex.engineer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Was this migration discussed somewhere? I'm curious as to why OpenSim does
> not move to GitHub and use the PullRequest system to make it easier for
> non-core contributions?
>
> Thanks,
> Blake
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Fly Man <fly.man.opensim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's a perfect logical explanation Melanie, thanks for making that
>> clear.
>>
>> 2015-06-24 12:08 GMT+02:00 Melanie <melanie at t-data.com>:
>>>
>>> Because it is more convenient for me to have these under my name until
>>> the maintainers make accounts and I can pass the projects to them. By now,
>>> two of them have already been assigned to kcozens who can now add other
>>> collaborators.
>>>
>>> - Melanie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Jun 2015, at 11:46, Fly Man <fly.man.opensim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Let me rephrase the question: Why is it under YOUR name and not under for
>>> instance Overte Foundation
>>>
>>> When someone told me about the Forge change earlier last week, they were
>>> kinda amazed to see that all the projects I started/contributed upon were
>>> now placed under the name of a single Core developer instead of the Overte
>>> Foundation which would have made more sense.
>>>
>>> 2015-06-23 23:59 GMT+02:00 Melanie <melanie at t-data.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Because those are the projects I know are still alive, so not legacy.
>>>>
>>>> - M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Jun 2015, at 22:13, Fly Man <fly.man.opensim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Melanie,
>>>>
>>>> Is there a specific reason why everything else is put under
>>>> legacy-projects but all the following projects are under your name now ?
>>>>
>>>> * OpenSimGroups
>>>> * OpenCurrency
>>>> * OpenSimSearch
>>>> * OpenSimProfile
>>>>
>>>> Last I checked the GForge those project were not put under 1 account but
>>>> 10 people had access to it.
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