[Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED)

[James Hughes]

We are always mindful of compatibility and try to use every precaution
to keep even the master branch stable. When faced with changes that may
affect users in a way that breaks their private work, we do try to get a
feel for the effort needed to adapt. 

I know I have asked about changes I intend to make several times in the
past, most recent being the changes to the ini giving a [Const] section
to allow variable to be used throughout the configuration. I have
communicated with the list and those interested enough to maintain
contact in the IRC channels several times in the past. I will leave it
to you to investigate further to satisfy yourself. 

I'm not sure what the issue is here but many elements of this
conversation are degrading far beyond uselessness and taking copious
amounts of time that could be spent in better ways. Sniping does not
contribute to any positive efforts or better the code or situation in
any way.

I would like to ask how many contributions you have made - OpenSim code,
wiki documentation, helping users in IRC, etc.? 

-BlueWall

On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 19:35 -0400, Jim Williams wrote:
> Never communicated with us before.  What is different this time?
> 
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 4:58 PM, James Hughes
> <jamesh at bluewallgroup.com> wrote:
>         I am not sure what the historical reasons were for adding
>         multipliers to
>         the numbers, but one thing we need to remember going forward
>         is that for
>         much of the development period of the OpenSimulator codebase,
>         core
>         developers and anyone submitting patches were prohibited from
>         looking at
>         the viewer code due to the GPL license. So, I will assume that
>         these
>         were set to match the numbers seen when logged into the SL
>         grid not
>         knowing whether the numbers affected viewer behavior.
>         
>         We do have a responsibility to weigh the facts and make good
>         decisions
>         on behalf of all users of OpenSimulator and part of that
>         process is
>         communicating with the user base when we are facing major
>         deviations
>         from existing code. With that being said, I am strongly in
>         favor of
>         using accurate metrics for simulator monitoring. But, I don't
>         think
>         accusing anyone of dishonesty for wanting to gather needed
>         facts before
>         moving forward is a good approach.
>         
>         -BlueWall
>         
>         On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 20:28 +0000, Maxwell, Douglas CIV USARMY
>         ARL (US)
>         wrote:
>         ...
>         > Folks, you may not realize this but knowingly propagating
>         the
>         > erroneous code is intellectually dishonest and has already
>         wasted
>         > precious research funding.  That we are even debating
>         whether or not
>         > to fix the simulator reporting mechanisms is disturbing.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > What we should be debating is "how".  The MOSES project has
>         provided a
>         > solution that works for us and we need your knowledgeable
>         feedback as
>         > core code experts to know if our solution is feasible for
>         the
>         > community.
>         >
>         >
>         
>         
>         
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