[Opensim-dev] Beta?

[Shaun T. Erickson]

 From opensim-dev IRC chat, last September 25th (edited to leave out 
non-pertinent chatter):

[17:24] <diva> justincc, ... are you ok with tagging this release as beta?
[17:26] <justincc> diva: no - with these kinds of issues I'm unhappy 
with even not saying it's alpha. ...
[17:26] <nebadon> we should probably mark a beta as 0.8
[17:26] <nebadon> and not 0.7.6
[17:27] <justincc> nebadon: beta is meaningless here - opensim is never 
going to be feature complete
[17:28] <nebadon> I am not saying that is what we should definitively 
do, but say we were going to do that I think it should be 0.8 for the 
beta, and I agree I dont think beta should happen right now
[17:28] <smxy> It could be feature complete if there were more devs 
working on it.
[17:29] <nebadon> while things have improved considerably
[17:29] <nebadon> there is still a ton of broken stuff
[17:29] <frnic> smxy, you need to have a specification to be feature 
complete.
[17:29] <frnic> It is an evolving project, so doesn't have a specification.
[17:30] <diva> and who ever said that the tag "beta" is associated with 
"feature complete"?
[17:30] <frnic> industry general definition is beta is feature complete, 
bay be buggy.
[17:30] <nebadon> well ya thats true, i dont think that either, i know i 
didnt say that :)
[17:30] <lkalif> feature complete is nonsense some middle managers 
invented in the late 20th century
[17:30] <frnic> I was a project manager for 30 years, I think I know 
that muchg - lol
[17:30] <nebadon> haha
[17:31] <AllenKerensky> ... just stick with revision #s and call some of 
the milestones heh
[17:31] <lkalif> it has long been obsoleted and put to rest where it belongs
[17:31] <nebadon> well one thing I would like to see happen before we go 
beta is have BulletSim be the default physics engine
[17:31] <nebadon> and also work a bit better than it does now
[17:31] <diva> that's not how it's used out there. It's used to denote 
"this is pretty good, but it still has issues".

To my knowledge, and according to my logs (which are not 100% complete), 
there's been no talk of this since, and 0.8.0 is on Release Candidate 3 
and about to be released.

So, when might OpenSim move to a beta status, and would it be a 
meaningless tag, as Justin claimed, or actually signify something and be 
a real milestone for the project?

-ste

(AKA Smxy (IRC) & Shaun Emerald (in-world))