[Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

Trinity trinity93 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 31 01:06:23 UTC 2014


My suggestion is to ship binary for what ever version of Mono is supported
by CentOS's current long term service release which in turn is equivalent
to RedHats commercial distro . These are the 2 distros your most likely to
see in institutional setups and hosting companies and is a sane minimum
version of support for any software project on Linux installs. As far as
"Head" is concerned go leading and bleeding all the way because dev should
never be limited. It should be generally understood that the head branch is
always unstable and YMMV. If you cant set up an environment for head you
probably shouldn’t be using it.

Anyways that  my 2 cents.. im out of spare change :P

Trinity

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:03 PM, M.E. Verhagen <marceled9 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think opensim runs fine on mono, pretty regardless of the version.
>
> The correct question is probably more why would MS deprecate the 4.0 in
> favor of 4.5 ?
> My best guess is cause 4.0 probably is pretty buggy, it was pre-alfa and
> should not have been used anyway by anyone ?
>
> 2014-12-30 16:36 GMT+01:00 Frank Nichols <j.frank.nichols at gmail.com>:
>
>> Exactly, Shaun, I agree. The other approach taken to its extreme is to
>> stop all development of OS because what we have works for some (most?)
>> people and any change brings with it the risk of incompatibility.
>>
>> This discussion of when and whether to upgrade a project has been hashed
>> out since the beginning of time on almost every project. It amazing how the
>> same discussion occurs over and over and all the reasons remain the same
>> and only the names change.
>>
>> I guess, it would be impertinent of me to point out that this is an
>> "ALPHA" release product and it is being held at ALPHA after so many years
>> in development specifically so it can be changed at will, and people have
>> been warned not to use it in commercial applications because it is ALPHA.
>> But then when an change is suggested people complain because it might bring
>> about incompatibilities... Ironic.
>>
>> As I said, that was probably impertinent of me. Anyway, I guess my
>> question is why should the advancement of OS be put on hold until the
>> majority of users are using 5, 6 or 7 year old technology? If someone wants
>> or needs to run old versions of the code that works for them, how is the
>> incorporation and release of modern changes impacting them from continuing
>> to do what they are before the release?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Sent from my iPad Air 2
>>
>> > On Dec 30, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Shaun T. Erickson <ste at smxy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Agreed. People who want to live on the bleeding edge should be able to
>> and, upon reflection, it's not unreasonable to ask that they be the one to
>> jump through a hoop or two to do so. When mono 4.x becomes more widely
>> distributed, the roles could be reversed, as I mentioned previously.
>> >
>> > I think the greater concern, for me, would be if support for the older
>> Mono versions prevents the OpenSim project from incorporating beneficial
>> changes that only the newer Mono versions support. In that case, there's a
>> tangible negative effect. I don't know that this is the case presently,
>> however.
>> >
>> > -ste
>> >
>> >> On 12/30/14 9:57 AM, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
>> >> The way I see it is we make it easiest for the majority of users. I
>> don't see mono 4.x users being the majority for quite some time yet.
>> >
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