[Opensim-dev] Suggested in-world DNS: .sim

Dzonatas Sol dzonatas at gmail.com
Thu Feb 25 19:12:11 UTC 2010


But this open source, so why should the topic be suddenly closed to 
server centric ideas.

This isn't "open server".... this is "open simulator"

I think it would be great idea for both simulators to actually simulate 
the same exact region, and then they would only need to update what changed.

A simple CRC, maybe a 10 byte packet or less, would be enough to tell 
exactly what changed.

Aren't you interested in ways to decreased latency for the user experience?


Melanie wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if you have 2 OpenSim instances on 2 connected boxes, neither is
> client of the other. You can, ADDITIONALLY, install a client on a
> box, but it can only be connected to ONE OpenSim, not both.
>
> There IS NO P2P mode in OpenSim, it's architecture is SERVER CENTRIC.
>
> For me, this topic is ended.
>
> Melanie
>
> Dzonatas Sol wrote:
>   
>> That doesn't answer my question.
>>
>> There are two opensim boxes, with each connected directly to each other, 
>> peer to peer.
>>
>> Are you saying, of only these two boxes, that neither of them can a client?
>>
>> I don't see the latency issue here when the client is directly on the 
>> opensim box.
>>
>>
>> Melanie wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm saying that one of them will run the sim. The other connects to
>>> it. Even if the other also runs a sim, the sims will not be
>>> connected. Much less cooperatively simulating.
>>>
>>> So, the one being connected to needs sufficient upstream bandwidth
>>> as well as an externally identifiable name.
>>>
>>> Which means an ICANN-approved TLD. Not a fantasy TLD.
>>>
>>> Melanie
>>>
>>> Dzonatas Sol wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> If one opensim box connects to another opensim box, that is, 
>>>> technically, peer to peer.
>>>>
>>>> So, are you saying an opensim box cannot run a client at the same time?
>>>>
>>>> Melanie wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> peer to peer simulation is not practical for many different reasons.
>>>>> Latency being the chief one.
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenSim is not going to be a peer to peer system, therefore your
>>>>> suggestion is off topic. Opensim doesn't need another TLD, and it is
>>>>> not what you are envisioning. OpenSim firmly embraces the concept of
>>>>> SERVER SIDE simulation, therefore every sim will always have a
>>>>> central server.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe this has gone as far as it will go and if there is any
>>>>> more name calling, well, we'll just have to moderate some people,
>>>>> won't we?
>>>>>
>>>>> Melanie
>>>>> (Core)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
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