[Opensim-dev] [opensim-core] snowcrash's contributions

[Frisby, Adam]

Ter pretty much summed it up - both it and the irc channel are fairly low-volume, and the 'topic' is restricted to only 'personal' or 'meta' matters; such as discussion of approval of commit rights. 

It's pretty standard practice across open source projects with more than 5 committers for the committers to have a mailing list for these purposes, since realtime chats aren't practical across timezones.

Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
> bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Teravus Ovares
> Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 12:22 PM
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] [opensim-core] snowcrash's contributions
> 
> As far as there being opensim-core, yes.  It exists.   As far as it
> being Secret..   it's not ..    Nor it it intended to be secret.
> It's been discussed before on IRC and in previous e-mail on
> opensim-dev.   It has OpenSimulator core as it's members.
> 
> It has a purpose as well,
> Just to be clear:
> 
> * The core list is a list where interpersonal and political issues
> between the core developers are discussed.   Despite how it may
> appear, we don't always agree on everything or even like each other
> from time to time.  We would prefer to keep this interpersonal drama
> from distracting development.
> 
> * The core list is also where core actions are decided upon, like
> voting on a new user's entry into core
> 
> * We also discuss opensimulator.org server configurations (like using
> git for our repository)
> 
> * Discussing the Development of OpenSimulator, however, is not
> appropriate in opensim-core.  That's what opensim-dev is for.
> 
> We also have a core IRC channel #opensim-core on freenode where the
> same rules apply.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Teravus
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Nebadon Izumi <nebadon2025 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > there is no secret mailing list, i don't know what he is talking
> about I
> > suspect that email came from the opensim-users email list.  Lets not
> keep
> > feeding this thread, Crista asked everyone to ignore it. so lets not
> have
> > this blow up, its not related to OpenSimulator development.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kyle G <create at reactiongrid.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There's a secret mailing list to discuss such issue? Wow. That's
> >> interesting.  I feel like Ryan now too.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> >> [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Ryan
> McDougall
> >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 2:26 PM
> >> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] [opensim-core] snowcrash's contributions
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Cristina Videira Lopes
> >> <lopes at ics.uci.edu> wrote:
> >> > dr scofield wrote:
> >> >
> >> > to me this is another piece from the legal FUD department
> (reminiscent
> >> > of the "money" discussions).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It's very easy to brush difficult issues under the rug of "I don't
> care,
> >> > this is ethics, not technical, hence it's FUD". You're entitled to
> that
> >> > stand. Give your -1 on whatever is being proposed and stay out of
> the
> >> > rest
> >> > of the conversation, instead of trying to "FUD the FUD." Some of
> us care
> >> > about these difficult issues. Having a co-copyright holder who
> releases
> >> > an
> >> > addon to opensim under a discriminatory license (in this case
> based on
> >> > country, but could be based on race, gender, sexual
> orientation,...) is
> >> not
> >> > something some of us can ignore. Unclear if/what we should do
> about it,
> >> but
> >> > clear that this is bugging a lot of people, not just core devs,
> and
> >> > hence
> >> it
> >> > should be discussed not ignored.
> >> >
> >> > Crista
> >>
> >> Nationality, or more to the point of the clause, political
> >> disposition, can be changed; unlike race or gender -- which is the
> >> kind of the point, to make a political stand in the face of
> potential
> >> human catastrophe. :D
> >>
> >> Have I mentioned that I'm not a fan of the secret mailing list? ...
> >> Here I am feeling like a member of a community, but largely without
> >> voice on the crucial matter of eccentric licenses(?)! :P
> >>
> >> Cheers,
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