[Opensim-dev] Trust & distributed grids

Melvin Carvalho melvincarvalho at gmail.com
Tue Nov 24 15:35:12 UTC 2009


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Infinity Linden (Meadhbh Hamrick)
<infinity at lindenlab.com> wrote:
> heya.
>
> just as a FYI, we're going to be working through the whole trust
> management issue as part of VWRAP. there was some informal discussion
> about using X.509 on the ogpx list running up to a general agreement
> we should try to agree on the problem domain before pushing any one
> particular technology.

X.509 is the way to go.

However I say FOAF is probably the ideal long term solution for this
stuff.  This blog gives an example of the user experience

http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/foaf_ssl_in_mozilla_s

>
> so... based on informal discussions about trust management on a VWRAP
> open grid seem to be tending towards OAuth and PKI. there is some
> heartburn about including OpenID directly into the specifications, but
> i understand that jhurliman is working on some OpenID tools to work
> with cable beach. and tao (aka christian) is working with xmlgrrrl on
> ProtectServ, which should be VERY interesting at some point.
>
> so from a standards perspective, there's a lot of cool stuff on the
> horizon and some more conventional stuff that'll probably get
> specified a little sooner.
>
> -cheers
> -meadhbh hamrick ( aka infinity linden aka meadhbh oh )
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 06:14, Robert A. Knop Jr. <rknop at pobox.com> wrote:
>> I don't know that this really *is* offtopic, unless it's already a
>> settled issue amongs the OpenSim devs.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:19:20PM +0100, Impalah Shenzhou wrote:
>>> I could trust in you, but you need to tell me "you are really you" with a
>>> local login (i.e. email headers can be altered to impersonate as another
>>> person) or someone I trust should tell it to me (i.e. OpenID).
>>
>> Do you have any personal web pages anywhere?  Do you run any CGI or any
>> PHP there?  Do you identify everybody who comes there?  That's the
>> analogy we should think about.  Yes, we need a secure infrastructure so
>> that only the small number of people you *really* trust can do scary
>> things.  But at the level of running regions -- well, you may be using a
>> hosting provider, or you may be hosting yourself, but you don't need
>> full and complete trust that everybody is who they claim to be just to
>> connect to the world.
>>
>> --
>> --Rob Knop
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