[Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion
Thomas Grimshaw
tom at streamsense.net
Sun May 31 16:30:27 UTC 2009
Hey,
Personally I would say that the way to approach "clearing the mantis"
would be... not clearing the mantis :P
Rather, get someone to go through each ticket and jot down a summary of
each; then you'll end up with a list of stuff that needs fixing (or
changing, or adding). The core devs can then hold a meeting with a view
to re-order the list based on their percieved priority, and then publish
it as a list of short term goals.
~T
James Stallings II wrote:
> I think its a great tone Stefan :D
>
> I think that even failing to accomplish the goals of such an effort
> would produce much benefit for the project.
>
> Sign me up :)
>
> *sharpens mantis pencils*
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Stefan Andersson
> <stefan at tribalmedia.se <mailto:stefan at tribalmedia.se>> wrote:
>
> Again, this would be entirely by agreement - anybody not wishing
> to do bug fixing can do whatever they like, but I do think even
> core devs get a kick out of bugfixing now and then, and adding
> stuff like those pesky last lsl commands.
>
> Regarding the mantis, there are several things that can be done;
> and what I was _really_ thinking was that "clearing" would mean
> "getting organized"
>
> If we can rally users and testers to help with the mantis, there
> are a number of things that can be done;
> 1) De-duplicate
> 2) Place mantis is "feature" vs "bug" - I did say "feature freeze"
> and this is roughly what I meant - the feature mantises would
> linger, but would not be part of this endeavour
> 3) Off major feature bugs onto the feature voting site
> 4) Re-reproduce and close of non-reproducible
> 5) Place major issues (that would require major restructuring) in
> a "post 0.7.0" category
>
> This way, we could "clear" mantis, as in getting to a point where
> all issues with the current feature set is fixed or closed.
>
> Again, only striving to set a tone.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan Andersson
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:34:36 -0700
>
> From: nebadon2025 at gmail.com <mailto:nebadon2025 at gmail.com>
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de <mailto:opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion
>
> I can agree with that, if everyone else agrees i have no problem
> with it, I would just hate for anyone to think that we are locking
> things up and they wont have our support. And mostly i was more
> concerned with trying to clear mantis, that seams a bit
> unrealistic, as a good portion of fixing the mantis probably rely
> on us instituting many feature requests. It kind of goes against
> the whole premise of freezing up feature requests.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Stefan Andersson
> <stefan at tribalmedia.se <mailto:stefan at tribalmedia.se>> wrote:
>
> Wise from experience, I would never propose anything as
> preposterous as to tell any core dev to do anything.
>
> But if a substantial part of core devs and the patching
> community think it's a good idea and can be swayed to rally
> for it, I think we can see some really extraordinary measures
> that would make us all look pretty god damn good.
>
> And hell, I stated it would be ambitious. Aim for the stars,
> hit the treetops, you know.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan Andersson
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:24:51 -0700
> From: nebadon2025 at gmail.com <mailto:nebadon2025 at gmail.com>
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> <mailto:opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion
>
>
> Have you even looked at mantis??? there are 728 open tickets,
> chances are if we clear mantis, we will have OpenSimulator
> 1.0.. I personally don't see this as feasible, this is to me
> looks like us trying to control what all the developers are
> doing, and I have to -1 this idea as it would probably make
> most devs just stop working.
>
> Neb
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Stefan Andersson
> <stefan at tribalmedia.se <mailto:stefan at tribalmedia.se>> wrote:
>
>
> I do believe we're all feeling the advent of 0.7 - a
> milestone in any open source project.
>
> Here's a crazy idea for you; how about we agree to freeze
> feature set and major architecture as of now, and
> concentrate on only:
>
> * Finalizing the backend restructuring
> * Clear mantis (hell, let's CLEAR mantis! how's that for
> ambitious?)
> * Write unit tests
>
> until the cows come home, and tag the cow homecoming
> rev as 0.7? Or, say, 1st of aug happens, and we'll tag
> 0.6.7 then instead. ;)
>
> I believe this kind of solidified 0.7 would give us all a
> breather, help us recoup, and then we can all go back to
> fiddling with our various dev projects again.
>
> What you say?
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan Andersson
>
>
>
>
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