[Opensim-dev] Region Startup & Sculpt Meshing Asset Retreival

[Dahlia Trimble]

I asked Nebadon to post this to the list to generate discussion. It's not
clear to me when the appropriate time would be to allow logins to a region.
Meshing and script loading are not confined to startup, they can happen at
any time when a region is running and prims and scripts are rezzed or
edited. It would seem that something in the scene would know the appropriate
time, but many of the processes related to scene loading are asynchronous
such as sculpt meshing, which is (currently) dependent on asset deliveries.
Could we list some of the observations surrounding this issue? What happens
when people log in before the region is fully loaded? Can these problems be
mitigated, or should logins and region entry be denied until some
pre-programmed decision can be made? Are there current safeguards in place
now that may have been rendered ineffective by past code revisions?

-dahlia


On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Nebadon Izumi <nebadon2025 at gmail.com>wrote:

> At the request of dahlia, I am starting this thread to discuss Region
> startup, I would 1st like to bring attention to the feature request that i
> filed on this topic
>
> http://opensimulator.org/features/issue.php?id=45
>
> What is happening is for many minutes after the [Startup Complete] message
> is displayed, startup is still going and not actually finished, if an avatar
> logs in during this time it results in a hung viewer that never loads.  This
> can be pretty frustrating if your debuging and testing all day because the
> only way to really know when the sculpt retreival and decoding of sculpties
> prior to the meshing of these assets can take a really long time, and just
> as a note and for dahlias sake this is not a meshing issue, its unrelated to
> the mesher itself other than its the process that occurs prior to the
> meshing so meshing can be completed.  anyway this is not really the issue,
> the issue is that the region is not actually started and we are making a
> claim on the console that is has, I would be great if we could work
> something out that the startup complete message and logins are disabled
> until not only the full pre-meshing sculpty retreival / scripting and the
> meshing itself are complete, because in reality until these all finish, the
> sim is not actually started and ready, and if enough people log in during
> this window it can result in scripting errors and simulator crashing in
> addition to hung viewers.  Please lets discuss methods on how we can perhaps
> correct this and make the opensimulator experience better.  Thanks
> --
> Michael Emory Cerquoni - Nebadon Izumi @ http://osgrid.org
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