[Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

[Brianna]

Sane values are desperately needed. I deal with many new users every week, in game and on forums. Most are x-pat SL content creators that are on top of that side but get hyper confused with an OpenSim binary. Many will tough it out and get an instance started but too many give up in frustration. 

Lately my improved technique is to have them fetch the OpenSim.ini from OSGrid dl, that at least gets past the first hurdles sanely. Or if standalone, use that .ini with very minimal edit.

I suggest anyone here open ini.example and look at it from a new user semi technical viewpoint.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dahlia Trimble 
  To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading


  Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to update the defaults in the code to sane values?


  On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:

    We did that because the hardcoded defaults won't work anymore. They
    are different fromt he OpenSim.ini.example values.
    However, my proposal provides a sane mechanism to provide external
    defaults, while not requiring user action at all.

    Melanie


    Frisby, Adam wrote:
    > I did wonder why we started forcing users to have an opensim.ini. The previous 'use defaults' made more sense to me.
    >
    > Adam
    >
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
    >> bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Jeff Ames
    >> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:20 PM
    >> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
    >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading
    >>
    >> Melanie wrote:
    >> > read [the config directory] first
    >> > then read the inimaster
    >> > then read the inifile
    >>
    >> If I understand this correctly, the config/*.ini files would be
    >> essentially read-only, and all local changes would be made to the
    >> inimaster or OpenSim.ini.  But then OpenSim.ini is not broken up, and
    >> it may be confusing to users why there are two sets of config files.
    >>
    >> Is this just due to OpenSim's current behavior of requiring an .ini
    >> file to be present?  Currently the default values for all settings
    >> exist in the code itself and in the .ini.example file (itself an
    >> unfortunate duplication, but that's another topic).  Instead of
    >> requiring that an .ini be present, we could simply use the default
    >> values in the code if there is no .ini.  This would also have the
    >> pleasant side effect of matching the behavior when an empty .ini file
    >> is present.
    >>
    >> Then we could break up and move OpenSim.ini.example entirely to
    >> config/*.ini.example files, and when the user wants to change a value,
    >> create foo.ini based on foo.ini.example (copying the whole file if
    >> they want everything, or only adding the options they want to
    >> explicitly set).
    >>
    >> Then I guees the load order would be:
    >>  - read inimaster (if present)
    >>  - read config/*.ini (if present)
    >>  - use defaults in code for anything not set
    >>
    >> I think this would also avoid the merging problem, if users only add
    >> options they're explicitly setting to the *.ini files.  It would also
    >> remove the annoyance of having to copy the .ini.example file over
    >> every time on a new install.
    >>
    >> Jeff
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