[Opensim-dev] Help needed for stand alone grid for 800 users... HELP! [bayes]

[Melanie]

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Dirk Krause wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I don't want to spoil the show for OpenSim here, but if you really want
> 800 users in a virtual world there is no way around ActiveWorlds
> (http://activeworlds.com/ ) - at least that's how IBM does it according
> to David van Gent. When it comes to user number of 50 or higher at one
> place, they switch to ActiveWorlds. It is an old but very proven
> technology that is very affordable.
> 
>  
> 
> Again, I am not promoting AW being a big OpenSim fan myself (
> http://web3dblog.wordpress.com ) but if you want to get the job done,
> you might consider AW.  I didn't try it myself but filed it under 'you
> need that for large numbers'
> 
>  
> 
> If you want to have it based on OpenSim for some reason, ignore this
> comment here J.
> 
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
>   Dirk
> 
>  
> 
> Von: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] Im Auftrag von Andrew
> Hughes
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2009 17:17
> An: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Betreff: Re: [Opensim-dev] Help needed for stand alone grid for 800
> users... HELP! [bayes]
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Nebadon,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your info, it's really shedding light on this issue. I might
> not of explained what I am after in detail. I am not looking to run 1
> sim, I am looking to run multiple sims that will handle the load of 800
> users. I do not know how to make those sims (not regions I know how to
> make the xml file and make another island) but the server side software
> connect together on one machine to handle the load. To make that type of
> grid, does anyone know where we could actually obtain those servers?
> Regarding asset storage, we do not anticipate the students really doing
> anything except for coming into this area and meet with their teachers
> for a presentation. Let me know what you guys think, as I am trying to
> find the best solution for the school. Thanks!
> 
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> 
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> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Nebadon Izumi <nebadon2025 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> At this current time getting 800 people into 1 region is going to be
> virtually impossible, even with the load balance the region max limit is
> probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of around 100 users
> max per 1 region, without load balancing your going to get about 30-40
> users max per region.  And really these limits are only going to apply
> if your all your doing is standing around chatting, if your expecting
> people to be able to build and script you can cut these numbers way down
> depending on your hardware your deploying.  My guess though even if you
> could get 800 people into 1 region (Highly Unlikley it will ever happen
> honestly) you are likely to have other issues with chat and being able
> to actually control communications with such large crowds. I hate to say
> it but OpenSimulator is really in no way capable of housing such a large
> production at this time nor likely will be anytime in the near future
> either.  If your talking about 800 students spread out over an entire
> grid all not in the same 1 region then that is more realistic but the
> same math will apply, your going to need a good 30 regions with all
> having 1 core of CPU power and aprox 2gb ram per region if your
> expecting 800 users, and your going to need fairly beefy Asset services
> with lots of storage space.  Anyway if you have more questions about it
> please let us know.
> 
> 
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