[Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

[Melanie]

I'm -1 on an enforced feature freeze. In a project as vibrant and 
fast-paced as OpenSim, feature freezes should be avoided, as they 
stifle creativity.

If you really need to create a stable version and maintain it, a 
branch is the proper way, IMHO. We already have a stable branch, so 
that is covered.

Melanie

MW wrote:
> I'm not sure how realistic it is to try to do a feature freeze, as some of our developers mainly do their work outside the main core (and work in modules etc). So a feature freeze might just see them not doing any commits during that time. 
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> But in general I'm a +1 to focusing on bug fixing. A good start would be to restart the friday afternoon bugathons thats we used to have. 
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> --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Frisby, Adam <adam at deepthink.com.au> wrote:
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> From: Frisby, Adam <adam at deepthink.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion
> To: "opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de" <opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
> Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 5:10 AM
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> [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Chris Hart
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> Sent: Sunday, 31 May 2009 6:44 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion 
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> It’s ambitious, and I think most unlikely that mantis can be
> completely cleared, but there are probably some juicy ones in there that could
> be tackled that would benefit the project if they were resolved.. It’s an
> ambitious call, but throw in a little reality and there is something achievable
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> Consolidating efforts at present time, making a base to move
> forward from that is a bit more clear cut and defined, and generally polishing
> up what we have now sounds good idea to me, but then I admit I don’t do nearly
> as much dev for OpenSim trunk as many others on this list.  
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> I kinda like Stefan’s crazy plan, so +1 from me.  
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> [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Nebadon Izumi
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> Sent: 31 May 2009 14:35
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> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion 
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> I can agree
> with that, if everyone else agrees i have no problem with it, I would just hate
> for anyone to think that we are locking things up and they wont have our
> support.  And mostly i was more concerned with trying to clear mantis,
> that seams a bit unrealistic, as a good portion of fixing the mantis probably
> rely on us instituting many feature requests.  It kind of goes against the
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> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Stefan
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> good idea and can be swayed to rally for it, I think we can see some really
> extraordinary measures that would make us all look pretty god damn good.
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> And hell, I stated it would be ambitious. Aim for the stars, hit
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> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:24:51 -0700
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> From: nebadon2025 at gmail.com
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> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
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> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion 
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> Have you even looked at mantis??? there are 728 open tickets, chances are if we
> clear mantis, we will have OpenSimulator 1.0.. I personally don't see this as
> feasible, this is to me looks like us trying to control what all the developers
> are doing, and I have to -1 this idea as it would probably make most devs just
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> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Stefan
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> I do believe we're all feeling the advent of 0.7 - a milestone in any open
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> Here's a crazy idea for you; how about we agree to freeze feature set and
> major architecture as of now, and concentrate on only:
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> until the cows come home, and tag the cow homecoming rev as 0.7? Or,
> say, 1st of aug happens, and we'll tag 0.6.7 then instead. ;)
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> I believe this kind of solidified 0.7 would give us all a breather, help us
> recoup, and then we can all go back to fiddling with our various dev projects
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