[Opensim-dev] User Authentication

Diva Canto diva at metaverseink.com
Tue Feb 24 15:44:25 UTC 2009


You sneaky hacking devils! That's a great idea! I hadn't thought of that :-)

But does this solve the problem of malicious hosts taking over the 
user's identity? Unless you involve that meta-tool in agent transfers, 
I'm not seeing how.
Can you explain more?

Maybe it doesn't matter in your case, because the LL viewer can be 
stripped out of all power involving inventory and such? But how about 
actions involving objects already inworld that belong to the person?
Please say more...

Crista

Stefan Andersson wrote:
> Dear colleagues;
>  
> for some time now, we at Tribal Media have employed an entirely 
> different way of logging the viewer in, with tokens, that does not 
> constitute changing the viewer.
>  
> What we do, is that we install a 'launcher' app on the users computer. 
> It serves a number of purposes:
>  
> 1) Installs rezzme, genesis and osurl url monikers, all of them taking 
> tokens as auxiliary data - these monikers let people log onto web 
> sites, and launch a viewer with a pre-authenticated token by a link. 
> (see step 5)
>  
> 2) Identifies installed viewers, and keep track of preferreed viewer.
>  
> 3) Provides a pre-login login form to do non-web pre-launch 
> authentication (in this case, this would probably be where the _form_ 
> obtains the token to pass to step 5)
>  
> 4) Launches pre-requisite software, as the TribalVoice.exe for when 
> voice should be enabled, or a Proxy to divert certain packets.
>  
> 5) Launched preferred user, with seamless login (using the login 
> option of the ll viewer with dummy data to bypass the login screen) 
> supplying the TOKEN in a tweaked LOGINURI - an example of this 
> loginuri would be -loginuri http://{loginserver}/?token={token 
> <http://%7Bloginserver%7D/?token=%7Btoken>} - have a look at the login 
> service, it has been providing overloads and aux data for some time 
> now, just to be able to do this.
>  
> 6) Provides for hypergrid cross-login by providing both loginuri and 
> target region as endpoint.
>
> While we might not want to provide all these options in OpenSim, I 
> think our approach has worked well for us and our clients.
>
> Most of the code for these options are actually already out there in 
> various scattered projects.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan Andersson
> Tribal Media AB
>
>
>
>  
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:31:25 -0800
> From: diva at metaverseink.com
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication
>
> Right. The constraint here, let's not forget, is that we want to 
> continue to reuse the LL viewer for a while.
> I'm going to read that doc about OpenID tokens, but if it requires 
> participation from the viewer, forget it... We are and will continue 
> to be in LL Viewer hacking mode in the foreseeable future, abnd I want 
> to make things safe before a better viewer comes along.
>
> The bottom line question in my email, phrased in OpenID terminology, 
> is whether we can use the Viewer's IP address as the token.
>
>
> Tommi Laukkanen wrote:
>
>     As we cannot change the viewer at the moment one could use the
>     opensim login code to create the token...
>      
>     regards,
>     Tommi
>
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