[Opensim-dev] Grid vs UGAIM (WAS: Re: [Opensim-commits] r8554 - trunk/OpenSim/Grid/GridServer)

[Diva Canto]

I guess your pulling out that code made the situation more explicit than 
it was before :)

If that's the case, could we then think of separating the basic "Map 
service" from any administrative grid services that people may want to 
come up with for grids.

Running a grid a-la Linden Lab involves a lot of admin work that can 
indeed, be automated by having config and admin information in a 
centralized place -- URLs of servers, ban lists, etc etc etc., to be 
shared among a group of regions.

But this is completely different from the Map service, which I see as a 
fundamental "space" service in VWs, and that exists also for 
standalones, Hypergrid, etc. and that can be made mix-and-match.

Something like this:

OpenSim.Servers.AssetInventoryServer
OpenSim.Servers.AssetServer
OpenSim.Servers.GridAdminServer
OpenSim.Servers.InventoryServer
OpenSim.Servers.MapServer
OpenSim.Servers.MessagingServer
OpenSim.Servers.RegionServer (What's now known as OpenSim.exe)
OpenSim.Servers.UserServer

Better yet would be to be able to configure blank-slate *servers* 
running a payload of any combination of *services*. Would that be possible?
So then we would have

OpenSim.GenericServicesServer
OpenSim.RegionServer

Where the generic server would be configured via dll specification, or 
any other module system. This would, hopefully, improve the current 
situation of having both  two separate inv and asset servers, and a 
third server which is a combination of those two. And it would give 
people more options for configuring their worlds according to their own 
expected usage.

And, going all the way, we might end up with just one single 
GenericServer, which, when configured with running all services, would 
be the equivalent of the standalone mode.

Probably not something that can be done overnight, but just a thought...


MW wrote:
> Well the name changed came from because at first I was doing a 
> different ICore interface for each server. So had IGridCore, 
> IUserCore, IMessagingCore (not all committed to SVN). But then wanted 
> a common core interface. And as IGridCore gave the impression that it 
> was for the Grid server, I went with IUGAIMCore, but it was only meant 
> to be temporary. I don't care what we call that. And agree IUGAIMCore 
> isn't the right long term name.
>
> As for messaging in the grid server, thats where messaging servers 
> register with the grid server, so that when regions login to the grid 
> server, it can provide them with the details of the messaging servers. 
> That isn't anything new, all I did was split those functions into 
> their own "module". 
>
> Maybe a name change on that module is needed as well, so its clear its 
> about Messaging servers registering with it and provides a inteface so 
> other modules can register the data about those registered messaging 
> servers.
>
> --- On *Mon, 23/2/09, Diva Canto /<diva at metaverseink.com>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Diva Canto <diva at metaverseink.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Grid vs UGAIM (WAS: Re:
>     [Opensim-commits] r8554 - trunk/OpenSim/Grid/GridServer)
>     To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>     Date: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 1:44 AM
>
>     I think I understand where the name change comes from, but this
>     leads to a deeper question: why is there anything Messaging in the
>     Grid service? And is there any intention of adding more service
>     registrations there?
>
>     Crista
>
>     Mike Mazur wrote:
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     On Sat, Feb 21 2009 10:41:28 -0800
>>     mw at opensimulator.org wrote:
>>
>>       
>>>     Author: mw
>>>     Date: 2009-02-21 10:41:28 -0800 (Sat, 21 Feb 2009)
>>>     New Revision: 8554
>>>
>>>     Added:
>>>        trunk/OpenSim/Grid/GridServer/IUGAIMCore.cs
>>>     Removed:
>>>        trunk/OpenSim/Grid/GridServer/IGridCore.cs
>>>         
>>     To me the general term "Grid" makes more sense, as it doesn't hardcode
>>     the current set of servers that constitute a grid in the source code.
>>
>>     What happens when we add a new server to the grid setup (ie: script
>>     server)? When the acronym changes, will the filename/interface
>>     name/class name be updated?
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Mike
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