[Opensim-dev] asset_database = "local" or "grid"?
Justin Clark-Casey
jjustincc at googlemail.com
Tue Feb 3 13:34:33 UTC 2009
MW wrote:
> I think Stefan is talking more about the general discussion on keeping
> standalone mode vs just having Grid mode that we talked about about a
> month ago. And the most common agreement was to aim to refactor the
> interfaces and classes so they shared more between the standalone dlls
> and grid mode dlls. And then have config options to set what dlls would
> be used.
I certainly don't disagree with this general aim as it's common sense, but often one has to move one step at a time.
>
> As I said in the email I wrote a few minutes ago, I think the local vs
> grid wasn't ever really there for having local assest when running in
> grid mode but rather it was there to be able to use a asset server when
> running in standalone mode. And I think that use case is still valid. I
> think we should be able to have a standalone mode where it uses both
> external asset and inventory server.
In that case, would it be okay to move the asset_database paramter from [Startup] into [Standalone]? This would mean
it's still possible to use an asset service that isn't the standalone one in standalone mode, but would remove the
confusion of using local assets in grid mode.
>
> */Justin Clark-Casey <jjustincc at googlemail.com>/* wrote:
>
> Stefan Andersson wrote:
> > I believe the general concensus was to support all three (four?)
> asset
> > server configs (internal, local, grid, hg(?)) but refactor the
> code paths.
>
> Could you give a mailing list reference to this consensus
> discussion? I don't remember seeing it but it may have been
> before my time (which means it was more than a year ago).
>
> Local mode has never made much sense to me, so I would like to see
> some of the arguments for it.
>
> >
> > While I do understand the confusion, I have already shown how we
> could
> > re-arrange the services so that we get a uniform set of interfaces -
> > ideally, the config option should turn from specifying a mode to
> > specifying a module and its config.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Stefan Andersson
> > Tribal Media AB
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:29:18 +0000
> > > From: melanie at t-data.com
> > > To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] asset_database = "local" or "grid"?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > funny you would suggest that. That is one of the code paths I
> > > suggested removing a long time ago, and was booed and rejected.
> > >
> > > Melanie
> > >
> > >
> > > Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
> > > > Chris Hart wrote:
> > > >> Setting asset_database to "local" will store your assets in
> a .db
> > sqlite
> > > >> database on your file system, and not in MySQL at all. If
> you run in
> > > >> grid mode, you should always set this to "grid" to avoid
> confusion
> > > >> unless you are connecting to someone else's grid and want your
> > assets to
> > > >> be stored locally and not on their asset server.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have to say I made that same mistake when first starting
> out with
> > > >> opensim and had to migrate all my assets over to my database
> server.
> > > >> Several others have made the same mistake and I've had to
> help them to
> > > >> migrate their assets too - is the local storage model really
> that
> > widely
> > > >> used? Should it actually be the default? For standalone I'm
> > guessing it
> > > >> is ignored(?), but in grid mode I've found it just causes
> pain and
> > > >> confusion.
> > > >
> > > > Chris is right - I find the asset_database switch annoying
> because
> > it catches me out on occasion.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with using local assets on a grid is one of grid
> asset
> > blakanization - people coming to your region can't
> > > > see your assets (because their requests go to the grid asset
> > service rather than your local asset store) and when you go
> > > > to other people's regions you can't rez objects you created
> on your
> > local region.
> > > >
> > > > But it strikes me that now, if you wanted to retain your regions
> > assets locally, you could set up your region as a
> > > > hypergrid enabled region, as Hypergrid regions use the local
> asset
> > store (there is conceptually no global).
> > > >
> > > > In view of this, I'd like to completely remove the
> asset_database
> > option. This would mean that in standalone and
> > > > hypergrid modes, the db used would always be local and in
> grid mode
> > the grid asset service would always be used.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any objections to this?
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Chris / Strawberry Fride
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> > > >> [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of
> Ai Austin
> > > >> Sent: 01 February 2009 17:12
> > > >> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > > >> Subject: [Opensim-dev] asset_database = "local" or "grid"?
> > > >>
> > > >> I have MySQL running on the same system that the UGAIM
> servers are
> > > >> running on at the moment, though we want to separate some of
> them
> > out...
> > > >>
> > > >> I am wondering if I set asset_database = "grid" rather than
> > > >> asset_database = "local" is there any performance penalty...
> or will
> > > >> it run identically if the assets are in fact local anyway?
> > > >>
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