[Opensim-dev] Local assets in Grid mode

[Melanie]

Actually, "making grid mode the default" was, I believe, aimed at 
the asset mode. So, it should have read "making grid ASSETS the 
default", since that is what the thread is about. Local asset mode 
and it's use/dangers and the code cruft currently in place to allow it.

Melanie


Hurliman, John wrote:
> -1 for grid mode being the default. It's not possible to collect statistics on who is running in standalone mode, so I get the feeling that standalone will always be under-represented in guesses as to what the most common mode of operation is. The relative complexity of grid mode vs. standalone seems to suggest that only the brave are using the latter. For that reason I would give a +1 to simplifying grid mode, which may be as straightforward as a .bat/.sh file.
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Rhian
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:06 PM
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Local assets in Grid mode
> 
> +1 for interfaces
> +1 for modules
> +1 for variable setups
> +a lot for easy
> 
> Maybe OpenSim.exe can have a simple yet efficient sh/bat file just to
> start Asset-server, waits, start OpenSim.exe (for the few that use
> standalone). Other than that, +1 for default Grid Mode in OpenSim.ini.
> I'm not sure which the databases are currently most in use, I'm doing
> a very wild guess that mySQL and SQLlite are topping the list. SQLlite
> mostly because it's out-of-the-box. If anyone has an idea maybe set a
> default on that too? Maybe mySQL for linux, SQLlite on windows?
> 
> Rhian (aka Dutchie)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
>> You're talking about standalone. I'm not even planning to do
>> anything about that. But you know I would eventually like to remove
>> that as a mode as well. Right now it's "local assets in grid mode".
>> That is a configuration that is not "out of the box", it takes
>> manual configuring. You need to do a full grid mode setup. So, it's
>> not out 90% case (standalone, SQLite) that is affected, but the grid
>> mode + local assets configuration.
>>
>> Melanie
>>
>>
>> Teravus Ovares wrote:
>>> Remember how easy it is currently....
>>>
>>> run OpenSim.exe, it goes.
>>>
>>> As a separate asset server..    it'll still need to be 'that' easy or
>>> easier.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Teravus
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/13/08, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that is what i meant as a reasonable first stage.
>>>> Unless that is removed, any code would have to be written to code
>>>> around that, creating more cruft and muddy code.
>>>>
>>>> Melanie
>>>>
>>>> Mircea Filipescu wrote:
>>>> > If you mean removing the "local assets" - "grid assets" switch, I'm +1
>>>> for that too. I don't think there should be two asset technologies like
>>>> that, just one asset server that you specify under its own URL under the
>>>> [Network] area. For local assets you just write http://172.0.0.1:8003 and
>>>> for grid ones just http://gridaddress:8003 and that's all. The technology
>>>> could make it so that every running simulator can automatically be streaming
>>>> an asset server too, though as discussed the problem would be how to get
>>>> local assets into grid ones while the sim is running. For now I think things
>>>> just need to be made more simple here. Also, I seen that "local assets" is
>>>> the default in opensim.ini.example and I think that could be a cause why
>>>> many people are running local assets on the grid without knowing as they
>>>> miss that field (for those who don't purposely want local assets).
>>>> >
>>>> >> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:43:25 +0100
>>>> >> From: melanie at t-data.com
>>>> >> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Local assets in Grid mode
>>>> >>
>>>> >> +1 for interfaces
>>>> >> +1 for modules
>>>> >> +1 for variable setups
>>>> >> +1000 for easy :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, I would like to come to an agreement on removing that pesky
>>>> >> "local assets" mode and making a local asset server scenario as a
>>>> >> first step, so the cruft that is blocking the development of proper
>>>> >> interfaces can be removed and we can start on the road to an asset
>>>> >> region module. After all, assets can differ by application and some
>>>> >> applications may not use "assets" in that form at all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Melanie
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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