[Opensim-dev] SVNBACKUP Module ... HowTo ?

Mon May 26 17:59:07 UTC 2008

Well,

Just for information ( I need some more tests ) ...

Previously ran "svn save" ...

Then, I cleaned my MySQL database tables ( for testing ) ...

Then, restart OpenSim, and run "svn load" from the console ...

Everything seems to be Ok, except one strange thing ( that also occurs  
with the "svn save" command ) :

I run 36 Regions on the grid ... And when I run "svn load", the  
process seems to be runned "36" times ... Not only once ... So, the  
"restore" process is very very very long ( About 11 min ) ... I  
couldn't imagine if I had many many objects :D
( Did you encountered this problem phrearch ? )

19:41:34
Region# : svn load
.../...
19:52:13 - [SVNBACKUP]: Region load successful ([KlinT World 35]).
Region# :

This doesn't corrupt my database, BUT, the "terrain" table grows a  
lot ... 1296 records are added to it ( 36x36 ) ... instead of only  
"36" records ...

But, anyway, that do the job, and my "world" has been restored  
properly :)

Regards,

Ursula.

Le 26 mai 08 à 19:08, Ursula MATOVA a écrit :

> Yes, that seems to work now ...
>
> Mantis #1391 seems to solve the problem under Linux ...
>
> • Step 1 :
>
> Edit "./OpenSim/Region/Modules/SvnSerialiser/SvnBackupModule.cs" and
> replace line #99 with the folowing one :
>
> List<string> filenames = m_serialiser.SerialiseRegion(scene, m_svndir
> + Slash.DirectorySeparatorChar + scene.RegionInfo.RegionID +
> Slash.DirectorySeparatorChar);
>
> • Step 2 :
>
> Edit "/usr/local/etc/mono/config" and add the folowing line :
>
> <dllmap dll="libapr" target="libapr-1.so" os="!windows" />
>
> ... :)
>
> This solved the problem in my case :
>
> Linux "From Scratch",
> Mono 1.9.1
> Athlon64X2/4GB Ram
> OpenSim 4852 / Grid Mode / 36 Regions
>
> Many thanks,
> Regards,
>
> Ursula.
>
>
> Le 26 mai 08 à 18:54, Ursula MATOVA a écrit :
>
>> Thanks Adam,
>>
>> I'll check Mantis immediatly :)
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Le 26 mai 08 à 18:49, Frisby, Adam a écrit :
>>
>>> That shouldn't be a problem.
>>>
>>> Someone put a patch on mantis to fix this.
>>>
>>> I'll apply it myself if no-one else does in the next few hours.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
>>> ] On Behalf Of Ursula MATOVA
>>> Sent: Monday, 26 May 2008 12:49 PM
>>> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] SVNBACKUP Module ... HowTo ?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's because we are trying to use a "Linux Based" SVN
>>> server ... :(
>>>
>>> The leading "\" at the end of folders names seems to be a  
>>> problem ...
>>>
>>> :(
>>>
>>> Le 26 mai 08 à 18:31, Ursula MATOVA a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeroen,
>>>>
>>>> Well, I've tried again, with your tip ( <dllmap dll="libapr"
>>>> target="libapr-1.so" os="!windows" /> ) ... Still have the errors
>>>> when
>>>> running "svn save" command from the console :
>>>>
>>>> Region# :
>>>> svn save
>>>> 18:27:39 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 0]
>>>> 18:27:39 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 1]
>>>> 18:27:39 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 2]
>>>> 18:27:39 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 3]
>>>> 18:27:39 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 4]
>>>> 18:27:39 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 5]
>>>> 18:27:39 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 6]
>>>> 18:27:40 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 7]
>>>> 18:27:40 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 8]
>>>> 18:27:40 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World 9]
>>>> 18:27:40 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 10]
>>>> 18:27:40 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 11]
>>>> 18:27:40 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 12]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 13]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 14]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 15]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 16]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 17]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 18]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 19]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 20]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 21]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 22]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 23]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 24]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 25]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 26]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 27]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 28]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 29]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 30]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 31]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 32]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 33]
>>>> 18:27:41 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 34]
>>>> 18:27:42 - [SVNBACKUP]: Saving a region to SVN with name [KlinT
>>>> World
>>>> 35]
>>>> 18:27:42 - [Console]: Command [svn save] failed with exception
>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnException: Les cibles font-
>>>> elles
>>>> parties de la même copie de travail ?; Le répertoire '/data/ 
>>>> opensim.
>>>> 4816/bin/SVNModule/a83150da-1ab1-11dd-89fb-0014853ee9da' est
>>>> manquant
>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnClient.Commit3 (AprArray
>>>> targets, Boolean recurse, Boolean keep_locks,
>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnClientContext ctx, AprPool
>>>> pool)
>>>> [0x00000]
>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnClient.Commit3
>>>> (ICollection targets, Boolean recurse, Boolean keep_locks)  
>>>> [0x00000]
>>>> at
>>>> OpenSim.Region.Modules.SvnSerialiser.SvnBackupModule.SaveAllRegions
>>>> ()
>>>> [0x00000]
>>>> at
>>>> OpenSim
>>>> .Region
>>>> .Modules.SvnSerialiser.SvnBackupModule.EventManager_OnPluginConsole
>>>> (System.String[] args) [0x00000]
>>>> at (wrapper delegate-invoke)
>>>> System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void_string[] (string[])
>>>> at
>>>> OpenSim
>>>> .Region.Environment.Scenes.EventManager.TriggerOnPluginConsole
>>>> (System.String[] args) [0x00000]
>>>> at OpenSim.Region.Environment.Scenes.Scene.SendCommandToPlugins
>>>> (System.String[] args) [0x00000]
>>>> at OpenSim.Region.Environment.Scenes.SceneManager
>>>> +<>c__CompilerGenerated17.<SendCommandToPluginModules>c__64[Scene]
>>>> (OpenSim.Region.Environment.Scenes.Scene scene) [0x00000]
>>>> at
>>>> System
>>>> .Collections
>>>> .Generic.List`1[OpenSim.Region.Environment.Scenes.Scene].ForEach
>>>> (System.Action`1 action) [0x00000]
>>>> at
>>>> OpenSim.Region.Environment.Scenes.SceneManager.ForEachCurrentScene
>>>> (System.Action`1 func) [0x00000]
>>>> at
>>>> OpenSim
>>>> .Region.Environment.Scenes.SceneManager.SendCommandToPluginModules
>>>> (System.String[] cmdparams) [0x00000]
>>>> at OpenSim.OpenSimMainConsole.RunCmd (System.String command,
>>>> System.String[] cmdparams) [0x00000]
>>>> at OpenSim.Framework.Console.ConsoleBase.RunCmd (System.String Cmd,
>>>> System.String[] cmdparams) [0x00000]
>>>> at OpenSim.Framework.Console.ConsoleBase.RunCommand (System.String
>>>> cmdline) [0x00000]
>>>> Region# :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Details for /data/opensim.4816/bin/SVNModule/ :
>>>>
>>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root       48 mai 26 18:27
>>>> a83150da-1ab1-11dd-89fb-0014853ee9da\
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   262144 mai 26 18:27
>>>> a83150da-1ab1-11dd-89fb-0014853ee9da\heightmap.r32
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root       19 mai 26 18:27
>>>> a83150da-1ab1-11dd-89fb-0014853ee9da\objects.xml
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root       16 mai 26 18:27
>>>> a83150da-1ab1-11dd-89fb-0014853ee9da\objects.xml.gzs
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root      138 mai 26 18:27
>>>> a83150da-1ab1-11dd-89fb-0014853ee9da\README.TXT
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root       26 mai 26 18:27
>>>> a83150da-1ab1-11dd-89fb-0014853ee9da\region.manifest
>>>>
>>>> But i'm not sure if it's my "home made linux" that is bad
>>>> configured ... :'(
>>>>
>>>> I'll continue my tests later :)
>>>>
>>>> For Info, my OpenSim.ini is something like this :
>>>>
>>>> [SVN]
>>>> Enabled = true
>>>> # Directory = SVNmodule\repo
>>>> Directory = /data/opensim.4816/bin/SVNModule
>>>> URL = "svn://127.0.0.1/opensim"
>>>> Username = "xxxxxxxx"
>>>> Password = "xxxxxxxx"
>>>> ImportOnStartup = false
>>>> Autosave = false
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ursula.
>>>>
>>>> Le 26 mai 08 à 09:06, Jeroen van Veen a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> hey ursula,
>>>>>
>>>>> I had the same error. The dll is there, but mono fails to use it
>>>>> somehow :/
>>>>> apr and apr-utils were natively installed though, and /usr/lib/
>>>>> libapr-1.so is
>>>>> the library on my system. I added this to /etc/mono/config
>>>>>
>>>>> <dllmap dll="libapr" target="libapr-1.so" os="!windows" />
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the dll loads, and I get another error:
>>>>> Exception: PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnException:
>>>>> PROPFIND
>>>>> request
>>>>> failed on '/svn/osvn'; PROPFIND of '/svn/osvn': Server certificate
>>>>> verification failed: certificate issued for a different hostname,
>>>>> issuer is
>>>>> not trusted (https://192.168.2.101)
>>>>>
>>>>> in OpenSim.ini:
>>>>> [SVN]
>>>>> Enabled = true
>>>>> Directory = /opt/opensim/production/SVNModule
>>>>> URL = "https://192.168.2.101/svn/osvn"
>>>>> Username = "svnuser"
>>>>> Password = "svnpw"
>>>>> ImportOnStartup = true
>>>>> Autosave = true
>>>>> AutoSavePeriod = 15
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure why its complaining about a certificate. It's  
>>>>> probably
>>>>> some ssl
>>>>> setting I messed up :(
>>>>>
>>>>> phrearch
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Op Wednesday 07 May 2008 11:46:22 schreef Ursula MATOVA:
>>>>>> Well ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After some investigations,
>>>>>> I have found that Berkeley DB was missing on my system
>>>>>> ( oupps ) ...
>>>>>> So I have just rebuild apr / apr-utils / subversion ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still have the same error :S
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at OpenSim.Application.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00000]
>>>>>> InnerException: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> thrown by the type initializer for  
>>>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> System.DllNotFoundException: libapr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at (wrapper managed-to-native)
>>>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr:apr_initialize ()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :S
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ursula
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 7 mai 08 à 10:35, Ursula MATOVA a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the link, but I already read this page :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The error I have maybe caused by some errors in my SVN
>>>>>>> Repository.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody tried this Module under Linux ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Ursula.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 7 mai 08 à 10:24, Justin Clark-Casey a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Hi Ursula,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://opensimulator.wordpress.com/2008/04/20/svn-module-or-diy-rollback
>>>>>>>> s-and-backups/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for documentation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm afraid I don't know why you're getting that error, I'm not
>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>> with that portion of the code
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ursula MATOVA wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to test the brand new SVNBackupModule
>>>>>>>>> but, I'm unable to find any documentation on it :( could
>>>>>>>>> somebody
>>>>>>>>> point me on if it exists ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've made some tests, but without success for now ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Set up a SVN Server on my Linux Box,
>>>>>>>>> - Creating an initial repository : "opensim",
>>>>>>>>> - Test from my windows box with TortoiseSVN. I'm able to
>>>>>>>>> checkin/
>>>>>>>>> checkout the repository.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now, OpenSim.ini configuration :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [SVN]
>>>>>>>>> Enabled = true
>>>>>>>>> Directory = SVN4488
>>>>>>>>> URL = "svn://127.0.0.1/opensim"
>>>>>>>>> Username = "yyyyyyyy"
>>>>>>>>> Password = "xxxxxxxx"
>>>>>>>>> ImportOnStartup = true
>>>>>>>>> Autosave = false
>>>>>>>>> AutoSavePeriod = 15 ; Number of minutes between autosave
>>>>>>>>> backups
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gives me the following error :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 16:32:28 - [SVNBACKUP]: Connecting to SVN server svn://
>>>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1/
>>>>>>>>> opensim ...
>>>>>>>>> [APPLICATION]:
>>>>>>>>> APPLICATION EXCEPTION DETECTED:
>>>>>>>>> System.UnhandledExceptionEventArgs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception  
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> thrown
>>>>>>>>> by the type initializer for
>>>>>>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnClient --->
>>>>>>>>> System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> type initializer for PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr --->
>>>>>>>>> System.DllNotFoundException: libapr
>>>>>>>>> at (wrapper managed-to-native)
>>>>>>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr:apr_initialize ()
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr..cctor () [0x00000] --- End
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> inner exception stack trace ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.AprAllocator.Create ()  
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.Svn.AllocatorCreate ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.Svn.PoolCreate (AprPool
>>>>>>>>> pool)
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.Svn.PoolCreate ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnConfig.Ensure ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnClient..cctor ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> OpenSim
>>>>>>>>> .Region.Modules.SvnSerialiser.SvnBackupModule.SetupSvnProvider
>>>>>>>>> () [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> OpenSim
>>>>>>>>> .Region.Modules.SvnSerialiser.SvnBackupModule.PostInitialise
>>>>>>>>> ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at OpenSim.Region.Environment.ModuleLoader.PostInitialise ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> OpenSim
>>>>>>>>> .ApplicationPlugins.LoadRegions.LoadRegionsPlugin.Initialise
>>>>>>>>> (OpenSim.OpenSimMain openSim) [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at OpenSim.OpenSimMain.InternalStartUp () [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at OpenSim.OpenSimMainConsole.StartUp () [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at OpenSim.Application.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> InnerException: System.TypeInitializationException: An
>>>>>>>>> exception
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> thrown by the type initializer for
>>>>>>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> System.DllNotFoundException: libapr
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at (wrapper managed-to-native)
>>>>>>>>> PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr:apr_initialize ()
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.Apr..cctor () [0x00000] --- End
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> inner exception stack trace ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.AprSharp.AprAllocator.Create ()  
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.Svn.AllocatorCreate ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.Svn.PoolCreate (AprPool
>>>>>>>>> pool)
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.Svn.PoolCreate ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnConfig.Ensure ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>> at PumaCode.SvnDotNet.SubversionSharp.SvnClient..cctor ()
>>>>>>>>> [0x00000]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Application is terminating: True
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any idea ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm using OpenSim.Rev4488 / Linux32 / Standalone / Mono 1.9.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ursula.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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