[Opensim-dev] A software to connect its own region and TP in from locally...
Olish Newman
olish at newworldgrid.com
Fri Jun 20 14:45:22 UTC 2008
Stefan Andersson a écrit :
> That list is something we could do as a collaborative effort; we need
> that list for our grid, opensim and DeepGrid for their also, (I
> guess?) et c.
>
Yes, agreed. We could contribute to such a list on OSWiki for example ?
On my side, I'll add as I get feedback from my grid residents.
Kind Regards,
Olish Newman.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan Andersson
> Tribal Media AB
>
> Join the 3d web revolution : http://tribalnet.se/
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:44:58 +0200
> From: lcc1967 at gmail.com
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] A software to connect its own region
> and TP in from locally...
>
> I'm sorry to desapoint you, but not all "private" router can do
> that, even the recent one.
> I got one 6 month ago and it can't do that and of course it was
> not written in the box :/
>
> Maybe it will be nice to make a list of known working router.
>
>
> s.
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Nebadon Izumi
> <nebadon2025 at gmail.com <mailto:nebadon2025 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Olish,
>
> I think the problem is that some older hardware will never
> be able to support it regardless of the changes we make, some
> older routers just dont handle UDP and port forwarding well,
> most residential routers and ISPs were not designed to host
> Enterprise level applications. The easy answer to the
> solution is aquire a new router, most new routers are more
> than capable of hosting OpenSIM regions from ones home and
> broadband connections.
>
> Nebadon
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Olish Newman
> <olish at newworldgrid.com <mailto:olish at newworldgrid.com>> wrote:
>
> Stefan,
>
> Thanks for the precisions.
>
> I hope in the future everybody will be able to host their
> region without
> such complications.
>
> Would be possible to do such a change in the OpenSim Grid
> server without
> too much impact on the rest of the code ?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olish Newman.
>
>
>
> Stefan Andersson a écrit :
> > Olish,
> >
> > Sorry if I was being unclear - I'm not saying you can't
> let people
> > host at home - we do it, and there are several other
> grids that do it
> > too. I'm just saying that a percentage of people will
> have trouble
> > with their home routers (around 30% or so of home
> non-power users it
> > seems)
> >
> > Also, you can still have the region up for others to
> view (Since it's
> > visible from the outside) you just can't enter it
> yourself thru the
> > grid server. Although this is impractical, it's not a
> show-stopper so
> > to speak. Especially not if they can access the region
> directly in
> > some way, ie, not by logging in or teleporting into it
> via the grid,
> > but directly, like in sandbox mode.
> >
> > We have solved this for the users that has this problem
> by letting
> > people build locally, in a disconnected 'sandbox', then
> upload their
> > region to our servers.
> >
> > Of course, there could be protocol changes devised to
> let the grid
> > server return the local ip if the request comes from the
> external ip
> > (ie, keep track of all LANs)
> >
> > Also, this is not an issue with standalone sims that
> have their own
> > login server and do not teleport. There has been some
> work done trying
> > to devise a non-grid network of standalone sims.
> >
> > The Obvious JIRA would be to let the protocol send a
> full host name
> > and port (or IP and port as a string) instead of a IP
> address in the
> > form of a 32-bit int and a 16-bit int.
> >
> > That would let you let your viewers on your LAN to
> resolve the host
> > name to a local IP, while letting external users resolve
> to the
> > external IP.
> >
> > It's bloody amazing that they, in the year 2008, still
> seem to use IP
> > addresses in the form of an int.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Stefan Andersson
> > Tribal Media AB
> >
> > Join the 3d web revolution : http://tribalnet.se/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:02:41 +0200
> > > From: olish at newworldgrid.com
> <mailto:olish at newworldgrid.com>
> > > To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> <mailto:opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
> > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] A software to connect its
> own region and
> > TP in from locally...
> > >
> > > Hello Stefan,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your help on this topic.
> > >
> > > I'm sad we cannot achieve this aim. It would have been
> wonderful for
> > > people to host their regions at home.
> > >
> > > Can we eventually think about some viewer changes ?
> > > Do you think we could file a JIRA at this subject and
> would Lindens
> > take
> > > it in account ? :s
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Olish Newman.
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