[Opensim-dev] new LSL state to implement

Melanie melanie at t-data.com
Tue Jul 29 12:45:07 UTC 2008


Hi,

you can't do that on a script level. That is done by the compiler. 
LSL is compiled, not interpreted. If it contains os* functions 
anywhere, it will fail to compile in SL.
There is no way to compile the script and then, at runtime, to 
decide that we don't want to execute the code path that contains the 
os functions. You would never get to that point in the first place.

I see little value and lots of potential harm in runtime grid 
discovery. Still, if people want it, it will be implemented and I 
will even help. It's all about openness. I won't prevent anyone to 
implement and use it, and no one will prevent me from disabling it 
in any grid I run.

Melanie


Lc wrote:
> it was not my idea but i think of use of some OSfunctions that don't exist
> in SL.
> It's nicer to say to the end-user "sorry the sim you are actually doesn't
> support our features needed to use our product " than breaking with a
> compiling error.
> 
> my "script" was just a demo ;)
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> well, to be honest, I dont see a need, and don't even see it as
>> desirable, to allow scripts to discover, with certainty, what grid
>> they're on.
>>
>> In these days of aiming for interop, I think it is wrong to limit a
>> script to run only on one grid, and this feature would most
>> certainly be used in this way:
>>
>> "You are running MyFreeScript on Second Life. I don't like it.
>> Shutting down"
>>
>> Not pleasant, is it?
>>
>> Melanie
>>
>>
>> Lc wrote:
>> > ok.
>> > I will try that under SL and update the wiki.
>> >
>> > Maybe a page like : "Porting script into SL/OS howto" will be a good
>> > start...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> simply use llRequestSimulatorData with a new constant (like I
>> >> defined CHANGED_REGION_RESTART). That would silently fail in LL,
>> >> IIRC, and deliver data in OS.
>> >>
>> >> Melanie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mike Mazur wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Lc <lcc1967 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> with the event, we are not CoreGrid dependant.
>> >> >
>> >> > Unfortunately events are part of the LSL grammar in SL. A script
>> >> > defining an unknown event doesn't compile.
>> >> >
>> >> > Your example wouldn't compile either, as your custom state doesn't
>> >> > have any events.
>> >> >
>> >> > I agree that this solution is a hack, but if required it would get the
>> >> > job done for the time being. The optimal solution, as Adam suggests,
>> >> > is to get Linden Labs to implement some function that returns the
>> >> > current simulator version.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
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