[Opensim-dev] external host name

Melanie melanie at t-data.com
Fri Dec 12 05:30:55 UTC 2008


Then we should resolve all hostname fields int he LL stack, and feed 
the client IP addresses. That should still allow us flexible handling.
Most importantly, we should not string-compare hostss. Not if (host 
a == host b) but if (resolve(host a) == resolve(host b))

Melanie


Diva Canto wrote:
> I agree. The problem is that the client doesn't understand that, and 
> this causes problems with caps urls.
> 
> Melanie wrote:
>> A host name can also be an IP address. IP addresses and hostnames 
>> are interchangable and we can't assume DNS presence. So, the field 
>> should accept a name or IP, and resolve names, like almost 
>> everything else on the internet does.
>>
>> Melanie
>>
>>
>> Cristina Videira Lopes wrote:
>>   
>>> The thing is that this can potentially create a RegionInfo data 
>>> structure with
>>>            nRegionInfo.ExternalHostName = regionData.IPADDR;
>>>
>>> This is inconsistent with certain queries on the Grid server, like "give 
>>> me all my neighbors" which may send host names.
>>>
>>> So, back to the point: someone needs to decide what is it that 
>>> RegionInfo.ExternalHostName  is supposed to hold.
>>>
>>> Teravus Ovares wrote:
>>>     
>>>> RegionUpData is my fault, and spawned from compatibility issues with
>>>> .NET remoting and Mono remoting with complex types.  It is only used
>>>> to notify a neighbor region that 'this region is up'
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>> Teravus
>>>>
>>>> On 12/11/08, Cristina Videira Lopes <lopes at ics.uci.edu> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Things are very messy right now. You can search for "sim_ip", for example,
>>>>> which is used in chatting with the grid server, and where it is being
>>>>> converted to an IP address in about half of the cases.
>>>>>
>>>>> To compensate, and before I noticed this inconsistency, Homer introduced
>>>>> another field called "sim_host", so not to mess with what was already there,
>>>>> that is supposed to carry the external host name, but this only works up to
>>>>> the point in which RegionInfo data structures are created. At that point, we
>>>>> need to decide what to place in m_externalHostName, sim_ip or sim_host.
>>>>> Which means changes in OGS1.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also noticed that there is yet another data structure called RegionUpData
>>>>> that uses IP addresses.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, messy. Someone should decide what this field is supposed to be, and make
>>>>> it a rule.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Krinke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Diva:
>>>>>
>>>>> You have a very good point and I would support harmonizing to one notion
>>>>> even at the expense of breaking some things for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, if someone can identify what some of those things are, or come up
>>>>> with a couple of search strings or grep expressions, I would like to look at
>>>>> the anomalies myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 on external_host_name
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Cristina Videira Lopes <lopes at ics.uci.edu>
>>>>> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:42:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Opensim-dev] external host name
>>>>>
>>>>> It turns out that a lot of problems with CAPs have to do with
>>>>> inconsistencies surrounding the URL of the seed cap. Specifically, in
>>>>> some cases we're producing URLs with hostnames, other times we're
>>>>> producing URLs with IP addresses, for example:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ucigrid03.nacs.uci.edu:9000/CAPS/4cfc94fa-09be-409b-b136-cda2cdde0000/
>>>>> vs.
>>>>> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "128.200.71.43:9000"
>>>>> claiming to be MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious:
>>>>> http://128.200.71.43:9000/CAPS/4cfc94fa-09be-409b-b136-cda2cdde0000/
>>>>>
>>>>> The client is not smart enough to test if this is the same host, it
>>>>> assumes it isn't, so it decides someone's trying to game it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The inconsistencies are all over the code in OpenSim, and they pertain
>>>>> to the use of ExternalHostName in several data s! tructures. In some
>>>>> cases, an explicit conversion to IP addresses is made.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should converge to one single thing. And I believe that thing should
>>>>> be whatever it is given in external_host_name config. Is this right?
>>>>> However, I am a bit afraid this is going to break 17 different things...
>>>>>
>>>>> Crista
>>>>>
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