[Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] grid operation

[Michael Wright]

-1, I think standalone mode is a important feature, and will become more important in the future

 I do think though, that we can do a lot more to cut down the code paths and make the grid services share code and interfaces better with standalone mode

Ryan McDougall <sempuki1 at gmail.com> wrote: belated +1

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Hurliman, John  wrote:
> It seems to me that standalone mode could easily be replaced with a small C# app that launches all of the grid services with the proper configuration. This would reduce a lot of code paths.
>
> John
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
>> bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Stefan Andersson
>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:40 AM
>> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de; opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] grid operation
>>
>> Kyle,
>>
>>> I'm going to claim utter and absolute selfishness here and state that
>>> I cannot see any situation under which I would have only 1 location
>>> open in the 3D web.
>>
>> But others can and do - especially the out-of-the-box noob or the app
>> dev just wanting to throw up a region to test a module.
>>
>>> For the purpose of "easily getting things set up", standalone is all
>>> but useless in its initial state. It's certainly easier to get set
>>> up, but it's also much more limited.
>>
>> It has one glorious use : letting people get an instant taste of
>> OpenSim. That's probably what got us this far this fast.
>>
>>> Grid mode is perhaps a bit more difficult to set up -- but the
>>> default in the configuration file is for the Null storage plugin to
>>> be used under standalone mode. This makes things... difficult... when
>>> trying to explain how to get modifications to the environment saved.
>>
>> For region persistence, it's SQLite, not Null?
>>
>>> Because
>>> first, you have to explain how to configure the storage for the other
>>> modules (again, for standalone).
>>
>> I must admit I'm a bit confused as of what resources you mean need
>> configuration and extra set-up. Can you be more specific?
>>
>>> Also, I've been following the posts on the topic of the HyperGrid. I
>>> need more information on this: will it work for any of the minigrids
>>> to be in standalone mode when they try to connect with the HG? My gut
>>> feeling says no... and my reason for promoting grid over standalone
>>> is simply this: the HyperGrid is much closer to what the web is --
>>> multiple administrative domains that all work together to pass
>>> traffic between them. I don't view HG as being the final evolution,
>>> but I do view it as being a very good start.
>>
>> Definitively - HG is a major step along the very lines we've been
>> envisioning since the very beginning - when we first started using the
>> phrase "3D Web". Let's not forget the "friendly teleports" region
>> handle hacks of old. This is all building one step at a time, towards
>> a golden future. The project has come a long way in only two years.
>>
>> And I'm pretty confident that there's even more magical stuff brewing
>> on private hard drives and in corporate offices. :D
>>
>>> (And thank you, as always, for your time. :))
>>
>> And thank you for yours, Kyle!
>>
>> /Stefan
>>
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