[Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] grid operation

[Hurliman, John]

It seems to me that standalone mode could easily be replaced with a small C# app that launches all of the grid services with the proper configuration. This would reduce a lot of code paths.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- 
> bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Stefan Andersson
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:40 AM
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de; opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] grid operation
> 
> Kyle,
> 
>> I'm going to claim utter and absolute selfishness here and state that 
>> I cannot see any situation under which I would have only 1 location 
>> open in the 3D web.
> 
> But others can and do - especially the out-of-the-box noob or the app 
> dev just wanting to throw up a region to test a module.
> 
>> For the purpose of "easily getting things set up", standalone is all 
>> but useless in its initial state. It's certainly easier to get set 
>> up, but it's also much more limited.
> 
> It has one glorious use : letting people get an instant taste of 
> OpenSim. That's probably what got us this far this fast.
> 
>> Grid mode is perhaps a bit more difficult to set up -- but the 
>> default in the configuration file is for the Null storage plugin to 
>> be used under standalone mode. This makes things... difficult... when 
>> trying to explain how to get modifications to the environment saved.
> 
> For region persistence, it's SQLite, not Null?
> 
>> Because
>> first, you have to explain how to configure the storage for the other 
>> modules (again, for standalone).
> 
> I must admit I'm a bit confused as of what resources you mean need 
> configuration and extra set-up. Can you be more specific?
> 
>> Also, I've been following the posts on the topic of the HyperGrid. I 
>> need more information on this: will it work for any of the minigrids 
>> to be in standalone mode when they try to connect with the HG? My gut 
>> feeling says no... and my reason for promoting grid over standalone 
>> is simply this: the HyperGrid is much closer to what the web is -- 
>> multiple administrative domains that all work together to pass 
>> traffic between them. I don't view HG as being the final evolution, 
>> but I do view it as being a very good start.
> 
> Definitively - HG is a major step along the very lines we've been 
> envisioning since the very beginning - when we first started using the 
> phrase "3D Web". Let's not forget the "friendly teleports" region 
> handle hacks of old. This is all building one step at a time, towards 
> a golden future. The project has come a long way in only two years.
> 
> And I'm pretty confident that there's even more magical stuff brewing 
> on private hard drives and in corporate offices. :D
> 
>> (And thank you, as always, for your time. :))
> 
> And thank you for yours, Kyle!
> 
> /Stefan
>