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0008592opensim[REGION] OpenSim Corepublic2019-10-02 11:282019-10-03 10:10
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PlatformPCOperating SystemWindowsOperating System Version10
Product Versionmaster (dev code) 
Target Versionmaster (dev code)Fixed in Version 
Summary0008592: Group Roles - Allowed Abilities - "Manage Ban List" - not ticked for owner for previously created roles.
DescriptionCould it be that the Group Roles - Allowed Abilities - "Manage Ban List" should be ticked (added as an ability) for owners of groups - just that entry along with two "Experience" related entries are unticked.

It also is not possible even for the group owner to tick that Manage Ban List entry in the abilities list for owner role to add it.

Creating a new owner role allows it to be added as an ability, but it would be more convenient of it as preselected as an ability for the owner role.
TagsNo tags attached.
Git Revision or version numberdev master as at 2019-10-02
Run Mode Grid (Multiple Regions per Sim)
Physics EngineBulletSim
Script Engine
Environment.NET / Windows64
Mono VersionNone
ViewerFirestorm OS
Attached Filesjpg file icon 2019-10-02-Group-Owner-Abilities-Cannot-Tick-Manage-Ban-List.jpg [^] (119,841 bytes) 2019-10-02 11:39

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BillBlight (developer)
2019-10-02 11:49

I'm guessing it depends on what groups you are using ..

"It also is not possible even for the group owner to tick that Manage Ban List entry in the abilities list for owner role to add it." [^] [^]

Those are the original Owner Roles for those group

The experience thing does not matter, we don't have an experience system.
aiaustin (developer)
2019-10-02 12:23
edited on: 2019-10-02 12:24

I think I see where this might apply... I was looking at the OSGrid RuthAndRoth group for which I am the owner. The abilities for "Manage Banned List" was unticked on OSGrid. I added a second owner group with all abilities including that one ticked and it let me do that. It works fine for my own OSGrid estates and regions. I wonder why the RuthAndRoth group would be diffeernet.

But there are some odd issues here I think. I was actually exploring the Estate/region Access "Banned" list capability when I noticed the reported problem. It works fine for my own estates/regions.

But when I look at the "RuthAndRoth" region on OSGrid... for which I am estate owner for the RuthAndRoth estate as well as group owner and it has one region that is deeded to/owned by the GROUP (also called RuthAndRoth) and for that in Firestorm 6.3.157811 (Bill's BoM experimental build for tests) under the menu World - Region Details - Access - Banned tab does not show its Add button even for the Estate owner/Group Owner. Might this be related to some ability/issue for group owned regions?

BillBlight (developer)
2019-10-02 12:32

Deeding things to group in Opensimulator has never been a good idea, I think the words to describe it are "Flakey at best" .
UbitUmarov (administrator)
2019-10-03 08:22

Keep in mind that we have 2 diferent groups modules in use by many, and may not do all things the same way
aiaustin (developer)
2019-10-03 08:50
edited on: 2019-10-03 09:46

Okay... the issue was on OSGrid region RuthAndRoth on latest OSGrid release from 7-Sep-2019, estate RuthAndRoth.

UbitUmarov (administrator)
2019-10-03 09:26

checked, xml groups does not add that right by default (and has no officers)
osgrid uses xml groups
aiaustin (developer)
2019-10-03 09:46
edited on: 2019-10-03 10:11

Thanks for checking and the explanation @Ubit.

UbitUmarov (administrator)
2019-10-03 09:53
edited on: 2019-10-03 10:07

note that right is not about land bans. It is about group members bans
that we still don't have!

aiaustin (developer)
2019-10-03 10:10

I realized that, thanks Ubit.. I was just exploring the estate ban issues when I came across this one as well.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2019-10-02 11:28 aiaustin New Issue
2019-10-02 11:39 aiaustin File Added: 2019-10-02-Group-Owner-Abilities-Cannot-Tick-Manage-Ban-List.jpg
2019-10-02 11:40 aiaustin Description Updated View Revisions
2019-10-02 11:49 BillBlight Note Added: 0035703
2019-10-02 12:23 aiaustin Note Added: 0035704
2019-10-02 12:24 aiaustin Note Edited: 0035704 View Revisions
2019-10-02 12:32 BillBlight Note Added: 0035705
2019-10-03 08:22 UbitUmarov Note Added: 0035706
2019-10-03 08:50 aiaustin Note Added: 0035707
2019-10-03 08:50 aiaustin Note Edited: 0035707 View Revisions
2019-10-03 08:52 aiaustin Note Edited: 0035707 View Revisions
2019-10-03 09:26 UbitUmarov Note Added: 0035708
2019-10-03 09:46 aiaustin Note Added: 0035709
2019-10-03 09:46 aiaustin Note Edited: 0035707 View Revisions
2019-10-03 09:53 UbitUmarov Note Added: 0035710
2019-10-03 10:07 UbitUmarov Note Edited: 0035710 View Revisions
2019-10-03 10:10 aiaustin Note Added: 0035711
2019-10-03 10:11 aiaustin Note Edited: 0035709 View Revisions

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